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Wealdmaster23 Nov 2022 2:58 p.m. PST

After thumbing through various sources on this such as The Great Northern War Compendium, misceleanous Ospreys, Helion's Waking the Bear, as well as online Tacitus.nu, I am at a bit of a loss as to how to depict grenadiers in this period in the Swedish army. I read one place that they are on the flanks of a battalion, and in the center another place. I found a single reference to amalgamated grenadier units (one single unit) formed as a permanent one in 1716. Any help appreciated.

Ogdenlulimus Supporting Member of TMP23 Nov 2022 9:55 p.m. PST

I base my figures for BTLB- Talon & Claw. Three stands, center pikes and flags with two shot stands. Furthest out on each shot stand are a couple grenadier figures. Looks good to me.
I don't use any combined grenadiers per-se, but my Guards units are four stands and that fourth stand is just grenadiers. If I ever need combined grenadiers for a scenario then I have them.
I based most of my decisions from the info at Tacitus.

I am, after all's-said-and-done, playing with toysoldiers.😏

Travellera24 Nov 2022 9:24 a.m. PST

According to the 1701 Infantry regulations which can be found in the book series by Barkman "Kungl. Svea Livgardes Historia" (History of the Life Guard), the grenadiers were equally divided beteween the two flanks. In addition there were 8 grenadiers in front of the battalion commander(which were in the center in front of the line) to serve as his bodyguard. So the battalion would look like this: G=Gren, M=Musket, P=Pike

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Other formations were also used such as a "späckad" line where the two first ranks were only musketeers with the pikes behind or a square. In these two latter formations the grenadiers seems to be placed in the middle to be able to support with throwing grenades. Grenadiers could also be gathered in a temporary, or for a longer period, grenadier battalion. In 1716 a separate Grenadierbattalion was formed with grenadier companies from 6 different regiments to be used as a sort of "Quick Reaction Force"

Hope this helps :)

Wealdmaster25 Nov 2022 1:41 p.m. PST

Thanks Travellera, this is great info. I will try to find that book or the series.

Travellera26 Nov 2022 6:59 a.m. PST

These books are antiquarian published some 80 years ago in Swedish only so hard to get or read for someone non-Swedish. There is a new book from Helion that I possibly have similiar info:

link

Wealdmaster30 Nov 2022 2:15 p.m. PST

Thanks for this, those Helion publications are gems.

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