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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP21 Nov 2022 8:17 p.m. PST

"What it's about: Officially, Nazi Germany had no designs on North America, with Hitler calling an attempt to conquer the United States "as fantastic as an invasion of the moon." But unofficially? Dude wanted to take over the whole world—why would we be an exception? Hitler had a plan to impose Aryan rule over every corner of the globe, including Allied Japan. (See The Onion's Our Dumb Century article, "Japan Forms Alliance With White Supremacists In Well-Thought Out Scheme.") Let's look at this nightmarish alternate future where Nazis march in the streets of America and are praised by the president.

Biggest controversy: Hitler had no use for pro-Nazi Americans. Although organizations like the German American Bund, and Friends Of New Germany had been spreading pro-Nazi sentiment throughout the 1930s, Germany gave them "no financial or verbal support" in the years leading up to the war or after it's start. The latter had been formed with the help of Deputy Führer Rudolf Hess in 1933, but the following year the organization was investigated by the House Un-American Activities Committee, and the year after that Hess ordered all German citizens to withdraw from FNG…"


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Personal logo Choctaw Supporting Member of TMP22 Nov 2022 11:45 a.m. PST

The Sioux were Aryan? LOL

Mr Elmo22 Nov 2022 12:40 p.m. PST

I watched some of that series. Never made it to find out who was in the High Castle.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP22 Nov 2022 2:56 p.m. PST

(smile)

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ScottWashburn Sponsoring Member of TMP24 Nov 2022 5:42 a.m. PST

Hitler might not have had any serious plans for an invasion, but he made serious attempts to disrupt American politics and stop aid to Britain. There were several groups of Nazi sympathizers in the US, working directly with German agents, with serious plans to stage a coup in 1940 if Roosevelt won a third term. There were a string of explosions in US munitions factories that same year that were probably sabotage. So Hitler was waging a covert war against the US for several years before open war broke out.

Nine pound round25 Nov 2022 6:42 a.m. PST

Similar to what happened in WWI- the Germans ran a far more extensive campaign of sabotage in the American munitions business during the first war than is generally realized.

It's an interesting premise for a TV series, but the sheer size of the US makes it hard to imagine an outside nation conquering it and occupying it: Virginia alone has the land area of France. Even during the Civil War, the Union armies didn't so much occupy the Deep South as devastate it and march on. That war was the closest we ever came to national dissolution, and internal disagreement is the route that would pay likely get us there next time.

Personal logo piper909 Supporting Member of TMP26 Nov 2022 1:12 a.m. PST

Wasn't there a planned bomber that could have hit the US east coast? But the war ended before it could go into production. That and an enhanced V2 rocket could have caused some chaos in the eastern US, at least, had the Germans made them operational. But these don't seem to have been able to have altered the course of the war by that point.

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