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Killerkatanas21 Nov 2022 4:47 p.m. PST

After doing some research, I discovered that this Humphrey Stafford is not the same one with the title of Duke of Buckingham.

You can imagine the feeling of disappointment as I removed the livery of red and black, with a yellow cartwheel-in-flames badge, from my list.

Now, I can't find any livery or badge for the Stafford that was at the Battle of Bosworth. Can anyone direct me?

enfant perdus21 Nov 2022 6:35 p.m. PST

This sheet from Freezywater has his banner; hopefully of some use.

auction

Killerkatanas21 Nov 2022 7:25 p.m. PST

Thanks, but I already have that flag sheet.

Warspite125 Nov 2022 3:49 p.m. PST

Hmmmm…

The Stafford Knot has always been associated with the family:

link

so you could stretch a point. However he may have been minor enough to not rate a banner and livery of his own but to have worn Richard III's at Bosworth.
Remember if a gentleman or minor noble was part of an affinity he would wear the magnate's colours and badge and not his own.

If someone is not recorded as having had a livery colour it may mean that he was not significant enough to have one.

Barry

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