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GeorgBuchner18 Nov 2022 11:35 p.m. PST

Hi
my pursuit continues – thanks for all the help here with my other questions surrounding the russian army in 1812 – seems to be one of the more difficult in some aspects.

I have one other query about a unit type i came across, but cannot find definite art for – Militia jaegers

tell me though if the uniforms shown here might be correct – specifically figure number 9

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14Bore
19 Nov 2022 2:30 a.m. PST

Russian Militia figures can be found. Not sure Militia Jagers are any different uniforms than any other, except armed with muskets instead of pikes.
As of Borodino when the Militia was first brought up to the line they were not used as units in combat, either 3rd ranks or as non combatants.

GeorgBuchner19 Nov 2022 4:40 a.m. PST

thanks but what is the uniform of the militia – like shown int eh pictures? (number 4) ?

anchar197719 Nov 2022 11:38 a.m. PST

Figure 14 is the private of Grand Duchess Catherine Pavlovna Jaeger Battalion:
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Czar Alexander II Supporting Member of TMP19 Nov 2022 6:15 p.m. PST

Not much about Russian Militia uniforms was standardized. almost every region had their own uniforms.

Some look very sililar to Prussian militia – others look nothing like that – depends on the specific region.

Best source I've ever found is Dr Stephen Summerfields "Brazen Cross of Courage" book from Partizan Press (Cavilier Books)
Expensive book but well worth it for Militia – Cossacks and the Russo-German Legion.

Cuprum219 Nov 2022 7:30 p.m. PST

The uniform of the Russian militia during the Napoleonic wars is a very big topic.
It will be easier if you first decide which militia of which province you will model.
Clue. The militia was divided into three districts, operating in different directions. The first district acted in the Moscow direction against the main forces of Napoleon. These are the contingents of Moscow, Tver, Yaroslavl, Vladimir, Ryazan, Tula, Kaluga and Smolensk provinces.
The second district operated in the North (St. Petersburg and Novgorod provinces).
The third district was a reserve one (Kazan, Nizhny Novgorod, Penza, Kostroma, Simbirsk and Vyatka provinces).
In addition, supernumerary units were formed from volunteers in Ukraine and in the northern provinces of Russia.
In 1812, the Moscow and Smolensk militia took the greatest part in the war (I recommend modeling them), as well as the militia in the North and Ukraine. Other militia formations took part in the foreign campaigns of the Russian army in 1813-14, where they were used mainly during sieges.
Many of these units had significant differences in uniform.

Cuprum219 Nov 2022 8:44 p.m. PST

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Chief officer and jaeger of the Moscow militia.

The merchant and petty-bourgeois companies of the Moscow militia had a dark green uniform, Cossack-style caftans, and a high round hat trimmed with black mutton fur. The rest of the militia (from peasants and other serfs) are caftans of traditional Russian cut made of gray cloth. They wore round gray cloth hats. The prescribed parts of the uniform were often not enough, so there was often a mixture of uniforms regulated by the militia with items of ordinary peasant costume.
The cavalry militians had exactly the same uniform (with the exception of regiments formed by the nobility at their own expense).
The officers of the merchant and petty-bourgeois companies tried to have uniforms corresponding to the uniforms of their companies (instead of Cossack caftans, green all-army ones were used). Officers from peasant companies, usually retired officers, wore their old uniforms.
Jaegers in the Moscow militia were not distinguished by anything other than firearms and appropriate ammunition. There were few firearms (about 10% of the number of militias). The militia was fully armed with firearms (often captured) in foreign campaigns.

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Cavalryman of the Kaluga militia (identical to Moscow).


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A foot Cossack (a militiman armed with a pike was so called) and a jaeger of the Moscow militia.

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The Moscow militia (in the foreground the ranger from the merchant hundreds) and the Cossack from the regiment formed by Count Dmitriev-Mamonov from his serfs and volunteers (completely Don Cossack regulated uniform, but the militia cross and the emperor's monogram on the cap).

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Banner of the Moscow militia.

Oh yes – all the privates in the militia will certainly have beards. Such were the Orthodox traditions.

GeorgBuchner19 Nov 2022 9:37 p.m. PST

amazing – some great pictures i had not seen before!

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP22 Nov 2022 7:28 p.m. PST

Thanks, Cuprum2!

Scott Sutherland24 Nov 2022 7:32 a.m. PST

FYI – see the following from Viskovatov, you're looking for the "Mass Levy" section, not the usual Cossacks.

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The pictures posted above are from the original Russian text.

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