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grenadier corporal14 Nov 2022 6:22 a.m. PST

I mean the crossbelts and the waistbelts of the regular infantry – light brown, red brown or white?
Different sources, different answers so far …
Big thanks for any clues.

Stoppage14 Nov 2022 6:22 a.m. PST

All the evidence I need to field Wellington as commander of my Imperial Russian Army:

Field Marshal of the Russian Army
(and my Austrian troops too)


Wiki – Wellington's Titles and Honours

Stoppage14 Nov 2022 6:28 a.m. PST


Sorry – must have clicked the new post button around the same time.

* If using bark-cured leather – like Russia Leather – then red/brown.

* If leather was curried ordinarily – tan.

Scott Sutherland14 Nov 2022 7:51 a.m. PST

FYI on tanning leather.

I've noticed occasional references to the colour of leather in uniforms or horse furniture wrt its method of tanning.

The following may be of interest as to the type of tanning and colour impact to deciper possible colour of leather;



Sho Boki Sponsoring Member of TMP14 Nov 2022 8:19 a.m. PST

Yes, in 1811 Wellington was proposed to lead the Russian invasion army against France.
Wellington rejected the offer. The other candidates did the same.
Therefore, the Russians were commanderless and trapped on the border, and Napoleon managed to gather his army in Poland in time.

42flanker14 Nov 2022 9:39 a.m. PST

Well, I'm confused

Grelber14 Nov 2022 9:57 a.m. PST

Glad I'm not the only one, 42flanker!


Stoppage14 Nov 2022 10:43 a.m. PST

My intention:

* Headline in Utter drivel
* Minor mention in Napoleonic discussion

Wot I got:

* Headline in Napoleonic discussion
* Minor in 18thC discussion
* Minor in 18thC painting
* Minor in Utter drivel

PS I discovered Wellington's Field Marshal-ness whilst researching the Russian Military Order of St George

Sho Boki Sponsoring Member of TMP14 Nov 2022 12:06 p.m. PST

Did'nt Wellington got that title in 1818?
So no 18thC..

14Bore14 Nov 2022 2:01 p.m. PST

I do have British and Russians, hmmmm

JMcCarroll14 Nov 2022 3:57 p.m. PST

Leipzig is only missing the British.
How cool would that be even if he had a small corp there.

Personal logo enfant perdus Supporting Member of TMP14 Nov 2022 4:13 p.m. PST

>Leipzig is only missing the British.

Technically, there were British troops there. Captain Bogue and the Rocket Brigade, RHA were attached to the Swedish Corps.

Stoppage15 Nov 2022 5:51 a.m. PST

Well it was worth a try :)

Imaginations then…

Wellington commanding an Austrian army:

* Out-front – jaegers
* On-ridge – brigade artillery in half-batteries
* Reverse-slope – infantry in division-masses (x2 coys)
* Here and there – many, many, many position batteries
* At the rear – Supporting light cavalry squadrons
* Here and there – Formations of reliable heavy cavalry
* Brigades of Austrian Grenadiers!
* British ADCs "influencing" subordinate Austrian commanders

Wellesley was politically astute – it'd be interesting to know how he rated the Austrians' "German" troops versus their "Hungarian" ones.

ConnaughtRanger15 Nov 2022 2:36 p.m. PST

"That War needs a better name."
'The War of Unfulfilled Ambition'?

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