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Tango0103 Nov 2022 9:51 p.m. PST

"A Black Hawk helicopter conducted multiple operations with no pilots or crew aboard during the technology tests and demonstrations at the Army's annual Project Convergence exercise, officials announced Nov. 2.


Sikorsky and the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency revealed that an uninhabited Black Hawk performed a rescue operation as well as internal and external cargo resupply missions at Yuma Proving Ground, Arizona, in October. The helicopter flew using Sikorsky's MATRIX autonomy system as the core of DARPA's Aircrew Labor In-cockpit Automation System, or ALIAS, program…"


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Oberlindes Sol LIC Supporting Member of TMP03 Nov 2022 10:41 p.m. PST

What could possibly go wrong?

kevin smoot04 Nov 2022 3:31 a.m. PST

This is how we get Skynet

Arjuna04 Nov 2022 5:46 a.m. PST

What could possibly go wrong?

Black Hawk Down
Leave No Mind Behind.

Andrew Ng from Stanford built a really nice AI helicopter 'toy' about 15 years ago.
Autonomous Helicopters Teach Themselves to Fly Stunts – On Youtube

Shagnasty Supporting Member of TMP04 Nov 2022 8:54 a.m. PST

Not a good thing.

Palewarrior04 Nov 2022 10:06 a.m. PST

"Asset deemed unfit for future duties…cancelling medevac. Returning to base."

mjkerner04 Nov 2022 10:19 a.m. PST

I, for one, welcome our new Helio masters!

Florida Tory04 Nov 2022 1:59 p.m. PST

This technology was developed in the previous millennium, and flying since 2000:

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Actually, the Army will be using a simplified technology. The USN's FirrScouts can take of and land on ships underway at sea.

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Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse04 Nov 2022 2:44 p.m. PST

Yes, and as I and many have said, we will see more and AI, 'bots, etc. in battle as the tech progresses. Which seems in many cases is fairly rapid.

Cerdic05 Nov 2022 7:10 a.m. PST

An "uninhabited" Black Hawk! This suggests that other Black Hawks are inhabited. So do people live in helicopters now? And I thought we had a housing shortage over here!

I think the word the writer was searching for, and failing to find, is ‘unmanned'. Honestly, the standards of literacy these days…

JMcCarroll06 Nov 2022 10:21 a.m. PST

Arizona you say. Not to many telephone lines or forests there. Ask any helo pilot about power lines. Hope it has excellent radar?

Thresher0106 Nov 2022 6:52 p.m. PST

Seems like a good idea for very dangerous, high risk missions.

The fewer people exposed to danger the better, though of course we need to ensure they can't be hacked, or captured.

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian06 Nov 2022 10:44 p.m. PST

I think the word the writer was searching for, and failing to find, is ‘unmanned'.

Probably avoiding such a gender-insensitive word! Unpersoned is perhaps suitable.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse07 Nov 2022 10:49 a.m. PST

Good point Bill ! Don't want to hurt anyone's sensitive feelings ! 😎

Thresher0107 Nov 2022 3:33 p.m. PST

Unmanned works for me.

Escapee Supporting Member of TMP08 Nov 2022 6:30 a.m. PST

Unpeopled? Unpersoned? But the real issue will come in deciding what pronoun to use with helicopters. Hours of training needed. Or for me, it would be years.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse08 Nov 2022 8:08 a.m. PST

Helicopters in the 101 and elsewhere were referred to as "Birds" … Not he, she or it …

And yes, unmanned is the usual term, I'd think for what is a de facto drone.

Andy ONeill08 Nov 2022 8:15 a.m. PST

Wouldn't autonomous mean it contains AI controlling it's actions? Rather than being remote controlled like drones are.
One could perhaps stretch the term to include an auto pilot level of self control.

There's so much hyperbole in that article it's difficult to tell exactly what the capability is.

Arjuna10 Nov 2022 6:41 p.m. PST

The term 'uninhabited' in regard to weapon platforms seems to have been originated because of some need in military academics in the 1990's or earlier to distiguish 'unmanned' weapon platforms and such that have still a man/woman/human/whatever in the loop.
See Richard M.Clark, Lt Col, USAF: Uninhabited Combat Aerial Vehicles – Airpower by the People, For the People, But Not with the People, Air University Press, 2000, p.343.
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"Being uninhabited is what differentiates UCAVs from today's manned combat aircraft, but uninhabited does not necessarily mean unmanned. Under most UCAV concepts there is a "man in the loop." This means there is some level of human interface with the system to make decisions at various points in the mission. The man in the loop may operate from a ground station, another aircraft, or a ship; and the amount of interface varies between different concepts. There are some who envision UCAVs as fully autonomous systems where they seek and destroy the target without any human interaction at all. This type of UCAV is truly unmanned and would rely on its own onboard systems, such as automatic target recognition (ATR), to make decisions. The point is that all UCAV concepts
call for an uninhabited aircraft, but there are different ideasas to the amount of man-in-the-loop involvement."

Interesting read, I especially like that subtitle.
The term is still used by some today.
Alas, old habits never die.

The paper references an article in Jane's Defence Weekly,
16 July 1997 by a Gourley, Scott R.
Mr. Scott doesn't look so 'woke' today.
Probably not back then either.
Mr. Scott's Twitter account

Lieutenant General Richard M.Clark neither.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse10 Nov 2022 7:18 p.m. PST

Interesting … Thanks …

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