"In the Grand Manner and In the Grandest Manner" Topic

I see there is a new edition of "in the Grand Manner" coming out – i am not familiar with the rules, but see there is also fromt eh same author "In the Grandest Manner" as well as the older editions of the In the Grand Manner

can anyone tell me is "In the Grandest Manner" different to "In the Grand Manner"

i would still like to know if anyone can tell me what is the difference between these rules

and also what is the scale – ie what is the minimum movable unit? i am looking for rules really where it is battalions or regiments that are the minimum movable units

"In The Grand Manner" is a rule set originally written by Peter Gilder and used at his "Wargames Holiday Centre" near Scarborough. The Centre was later taken over by Mike Ingham and Gerry Elliot and over the years refinements were made to the original rules.

The scale is 1 model equals 20 men and 6inches represents 100 yards. Frontages are 15mm per figure for foot and 20mm per figure for horse. This gives French units of 36 figures and Austrian units of 48 figures. Units are organised with 4 or 6 figures on a stand i.e. a French unit will comprise 6 stands each with 6 figures and an Austrian unit will comprise 6 stands each with 8 figures. A unit, i.e. a battalion/squadron, manoeuvres as a whole.

I'm not familiar with "In The Grandest Manner" but from photographs of games it looks as if Gerry Elliot has developed the rules by using smaller scale figures but retaining the original footprint. Consequently, the units are very large and the overall effect is quite amazing. There are likely other changes but I'm unable to comment.

Hope that this sheds a light on one of the sets and that someone else can help with the other one.

thanks, am i correct that it is a ruleset intended likely for a very large sized battlefield, – ie only for wargamers who have a dedicated room in their house and a table the size of two pool tables?

Pretty much , yes. The command and control aspects arise from having large forces on a large table with LOTS of players a side.

If you're looking for a similar set of rules more suitable for "normal Wargame" use – may I recommend General de Brigade

thanks for that info – i guess i do have a good many rules already, its just that allure always of other rules i dont know about, but i prefer for large battles to be scaled down to fit a normal table and not intended for multiple people per side, as fun as that would be, i just dont have the time or friends to do that