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dapeters17 Jan 2023 1:19 p.m. PST

I suspect that it not so much the perception of weakness of western leadership, in our would-be enemies as much as their perception of their own cultural superiority. +1 ROU….

Tortorella Supporting Member of TMP17 Jan 2023 4:00 p.m. PST

A little paranoia is not a bad thing…

+1 DA, and I also think that will not work out well for them.


Lets not forget that China is well connected to the American right as well, and their biggest bank kept its American HQ in a certain tower in NYC, paying billions in rent. Other business connections were in evidence, like those Chinese patents that sailed through. China is an issue for both left and right wing US politicians.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP17 Jan 2023 5:24 p.m. PST

weakness of western leadership, in our would-be enemies as much as their perception of their own cultural superiority. +1
I think it is both … The CCP believes in their cultural superiority of everyone else. As we see that makes them dangerous. Again, we know they know how to play the long game and have been for some time. As has been said before their goal is to replace the USA as #1 economically and militarily. Looks like they may be on their way. Plus, again weak, feckless, etc., etc. US leadership, only embolden them. As is did Putin to invade the Ukraine. IMO of course …


A little paranoia is not a bad thing…
Oh I forgot to mention China has had operatives in very high places in the USA for decades. And of course, even more recently if you follow the news. 🍯 Avoiding being political or trying.

As well as the well-known belief that COVID was no accident.

Tortorella Supporting Member of TMP17 Jan 2023 6:40 p.m. PST

I think Covid hurt the Chinese economy for longer and in more ways than anyone else. If it was deliberate, maybe they are not as clever as we think.

Yes, I agree about politics. I think it should be clear though that there has been concern about Chinese connections in the government regardless of party as I said above. There is more about the current and previous administrations, business, families, that we cannot mention here.

I worry most about military secrets. It seems docs are not properly protected by chain of custody and storage protocols at high levels, apparently going back for many years. Carter is probably rooting around in his basement right now.

SBminisguy18 Jan 2023 8:56 a.m. PST

Lets not forget that China is well connected to the American right as well

Nah, you're conflating the GOP Establishment with Conservatives (who are predominantly classical liberals). Mitch McConnell is dirty with CCP money, we know that, and many other Establishment types.

In contrast, most Conservatives (many of whom may be rankd and file Republicans) want smaller, less intrusive government, support the ideals of meritocracy and equal opportunity, devolution to local control, lower taxes, less government spending, and by and large also disagree with the Establishment's Endless Wars. So how do you define that as "right wing" in this context?

Tortorella Supporting Member of TMP18 Jan 2023 9:32 a.m. PST

Hey that's what moderates want! where are these people on the right?

No, don't answer, we are crossing a line. Let's just say that war with China is not just a battlefield issue and we need to address the covert activities. And maybe we are. This game is played at many levels.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP18 Jan 2023 10:03 a.m. PST

I think Covid hurt the Chinese economy for longer and in more ways than anyone else. If it was deliberate, maybe they are not as clever as we think.
Well their economy was not doing very well before COVID. Thought by some was they released it to disrupt other's in the world's economies. Remember they still wanted to and still do knock the USA out of the #1 position economically & militarily. They are 20% of the planet, they believed they could take the loses. It seems they were wrong. Of course, China, like Russia & North Korea are very tight with what is really going on. You can pretty much be guaranteed very little if everything they say is a lie, propaganda, etc.

I worry most about military secrets.
Like many I had a Top Secret clearance when on active duty. It is not that big a deal. However, we were taught how to handle classified documents, information, etc. So are our elected & appointed officials. If I say more I may be DH'd. However, seems there is a double standard …

As I posted here earlier. Well if we look at it we are in a "de facto" war with the PRC/CCP.

* CCP is sending/selling chemicals to make fentanyl to the Mexican cartels. Crossing mostly across the open South Border. Kills hundreds of Americans daily.

* CCP paying millions of $ to many US universities for PRC nationals to go to those institutions. Many/most are CCP spies/operatives stealing US tech, copyrighted items, etc. This has been going on for decades. If the Gov't tried to stop this. Hundreds of academics, intellectuals, professors, etc. called that racist … but of course the universities like the millions they get from the CCP. For … e.g. increasing Professors' salaries ? Today the cover all is to call something racist.

*CCP buying land next to US Military Bases … this is bad and self-explanatory.

*CCP is setting up "de facto" police depts. to monitor their Nationals/spies, etc. and even Chinese who became US citizens Legally(!).

*Many Chinese came here legally to escape the CCP. They are often interviewed in the media. But not enough, IMO …

*TikTok is a CCP propaganda/fake news etc. media. It must be stopped.

*I don't doubt the CCP does not stop by sites like this, our Mil. Ofc. of America monthly newsletter, etc., etc.

I believe it is very possible that the CCP channels $, being thoroughly laundered, to Antifa, BLM, CRT/1619 projects, Soros, etc., etc. For obvious reasons.

Oh I forgot to mention China has had operatives in very high places in the USA for decades. And of course, even more recently if you follow the news. 🍯 Avoiding being political or trying.
As well as the well-known belief that COVID was no accident.

I think those points are worth repeating.

SBminisguy18 Jan 2023 12:12 p.m. PST

Hey that's what moderates want! where are these people on the right?

Guess that depends on what your definition of "the right" is, eh?

dapeters18 Jan 2023 12:54 p.m. PST

Legion if you meant "The CCP believes in their cultural superiority "over" everyone else. As we see that makes them dangerous.
I would say that has been the undoing of our Enemies going back to the American Civil War

Tortorella Supporting Member of TMP18 Jan 2023 6:40 p.m. PST

I guess I define right wing differently than you, SB. In this context, i am not sure whether politics makes any difference when it comes to money and business connections.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP19 Jan 2023 11:12 a.m. PST

Legion if you meant "The CCP believes in their cultural superiority "over" everyone else. As we see that makes them dangerous.
Yes, as I said in a previous post above, "The CCP believes in their cultural superiority of everyone else. As we see that makes them dangerous." … Again, that and their belief that the US has weak leadership, etc., but we have talked about this before.

I would say that has been the undoing of our Enemies going back to the American Civil War.
In many cases, yes. The IJFs and Nazis of WWII are very good examples. As well as IMO more recently islamic jihadis/terrorists.

dapeters19 Jan 2023 1:26 p.m. PST

"I guess I define right wing differently than you, SB. In this context, i am not sure whether politics makes any difference when it comes to money and business connections."

Is truly dismaying that the extreme right does not see how they facilitating Fascism in the west. All they need to do is read histories of the twenties and thirties.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP19 Jan 2023 5:30 p.m. PST

IMO the extremes at both ends are very vocal minorities … 'nuff said … do not want to get too political, etc.🤔🤫

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP21 Jan 2023 10:13 p.m. PST

Taiwan To Allow Women To Volunteer For Military Reserve Force Training Amid Threats Of China

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China completes construction of first autonomous vessel drone carrier


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Armand

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP21 Jan 2023 10:15 p.m. PST

Good idea … there are many, many jobs females can do in the military.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP23 Jan 2023 4:45 p.m. PST

China's Mysterious 6th-Generation Stealth Fighter' Spotted On Simulator Screen At AVIC (Aviation Industry Corporation of China)

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Armand

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP23 Jan 2023 5:38 p.m. PST

If we need to start sending massive amounts of military equipment to Taiwan to deter the PRC/CCP plans to invade. With all the aid going to the Ukraine, where are we going to get the numbers needed ?

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP26 Jan 2023 10:09 p.m. PST

Taiwan Gets Volcanos To Defend Beaches

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Armand

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP27 Jan 2023 10:22 p.m. PST

Taiwan's Urgent Task


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Armand

35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP28 Jan 2023 11:01 a.m. PST

Air Force general predicts war with China in 2025: 'I hope I am wrong'


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Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP28 Jan 2023 11:11 a.m. PST

We all hope he's wrong … We may be short with weapons to support Taiwan ?

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP30 Jan 2023 10:00 p.m. PST

Would America Be Screwed If China Invades Taiwan?

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Armand

Tortorella Supporting Member of TMP01 Feb 2023 7:27 a.m. PST

I hope he is wrong too. And hope is that he stays out of politics and stays focused.

35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP01 Feb 2023 9:28 a.m. PST

🤔 add this to the very recent Guam thread on TMP. There does seem to be a pattern.

Subject: US military seeks to expand access to bases in Philippines with eye toward China – CNNPolitics


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dapeters01 Feb 2023 2:07 p.m. PST

The first thing China will have to do is to secure North Korea. They don't want their conflict with Taiwan turning into a regional war. At the same time they need to take Twain before there is a concentrated after to contain China.

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian01 Feb 2023 2:21 p.m. PST

Since China DID NOT invade "this year" (2022), let's consider this discussion closed, please.

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