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SBminisguy18 Oct 2022 7:46 a.m. PST

…not a guide book!

Boston University Researchers Develop COVID Strain With 80 Percent Kill Rate in Mice

Researchers with Boston University have developed a strain of COVID-19 that killed 80 percent of mice infected with it, according to a preprint study released last week, prompting concern and condemnation.

The team of researchers extracted the Omicron variant's spike protein, which they noted has "an unusually large number of mutations." The researchers then attached Omicron's spike protein, which is a structure that allows a virus to bind and invade human cells, to the original Wuhan COVID-19 variant that reportedly emerged in late 2019. They dubbed it "Omicron S."


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Personal logo Murphy Sponsoring Member of TMP18 Oct 2022 8:58 a.m. PST

Once again, instead of asking "Could we?" they should have said "Should we?"….

And we all know the answer to that one.

Augustus18 Oct 2022 9:30 a.m. PST

Really getting tired of universities doing whatever they damn well please. Their security is a joke to anyone with the will to breach it.

Mice and human immune systems are too very close for comfort…that is why you test various pathogens, etc on mice.

Someone needs to be brought up on charges and the entire research incinerated.

Col Durnford18 Oct 2022 10:40 a.m. PST

Was the project funded by the CCP?

Arjuna18 Oct 2022 10:41 a.m. PST

You know that mice is not mice and these mice are a special breed, with a hundred percent death rate when infected with the Wuhan variant of SARS-CoV-2 and that 80% means an improvement in survival rate?

Just in case your house cat is picky, here you will find pretty much everything its heart and stomach may desire:
Jackson Laboratory – Find & Order Mice
There are of course other suppliers, no advertising intended.

This is the one they used at NEIDL:
K18-hACE2
$117.23 USD a mouse, a bargain!

Should you be interested in specialised mouse models for Covid-19, there is a whole consortium just for that:
Mousecovid.org

And the BU NEIDL is biolab security level 3:
Biosafety Level Requirements

But its fun nonetheless.
Survivors 1975, Ep.1

And you can never be sure:
Janet Parker

Stryderg18 Oct 2022 11:42 a.m. PST

$117 USD per mouse!!
I'll have a small supply of common house mice by early morning tomorrow. Venmo and checks accepted.

Arjuna18 Oct 2022 12:00 p.m. PST

I'll have a small supply of common house mice

Breed them, invent some creative new ways to kill them, make vids of it and upload them to your youtube channel:
random mouse trap vid on youtube

You could infect them with SARS CoV2 and see/film what happens.

It's a thing.

Zephyr118 Oct 2022 9:11 p.m. PST

Eventually all the mice and rats will be immune to everything ever tested on them, and they'll be immortal. And then we'll be the species in trouble… ;-)

Archon6418 Oct 2022 9:14 p.m. PST

The experimental virus killed 100% of the human race. The scientists drank champagne and danced at their success, just before they died.

Striker18 Oct 2022 9:23 p.m. PST

But I saw on the news that all the fear unjustified? I saw it on the news from experts! Nothing ever escapes from a lab and there is absolutely NO presaging of a virus getting loose and causing mayhem and death or science going amok and creating problems never imagined. Never, in any form. Unfounded fears.

<just in case it's needed: sarcasm>

Stryderg19 Oct 2022 5:53 a.m. PST

Oh come on Striker. Why shouldn't we trust the experts?
You know, the ones that said:
the cosmos revolves around the earth
the cosmos revolves around the sun
the cosmos revolves around the center of the galaxy
the cosmos revolves around the center of the known universe
leeches are a great cure for the vapors
arsenic is a wonderful curative
etc.

Arjuna19 Oct 2022 7:08 a.m. PST

You shouldn't trust anyone.
Especially not those experts that do not tell you that and why they don't give you the whole picture, but a headline.

As I said, you can never be sure.
I'm well aware that specially designed viruses for military purposes may be a thing.
The latest scenario from military experts I read about it, was 'Future War and the Defence of Europe' by John R. Allen,
Frederick Ben Hodges and Julian Lindley-French
They called it Covid-29.
Future War and the Defence of Europe – On Goodreads

Sapere aude.

Silurian19 Oct 2022 7:15 a.m. PST

Ah, sensational headlines based upon a misunderstanding of partial information. That never happens.
But lets incinerate valuable research anyway. Just to be sure.

Striker19 Oct 2022 10:27 a.m. PST

Considering the impact still being felt upon the whole world that is still ongoing the idea that some place is messing with this is not something I'm fine with and not something to be brushed aside with "oh you silly non-science people". Sensational headlines or not someone should be tightly controlling this, and not some University saying "hey man, it's cool we asked some of our buds". I understand there's money to be made and some people can't leave well enough alone but that doesn't mean it needs to be done without a ton of oversight, which nobody is saying. Since there hasn't been a full investigation into the origins of covid, and will probably never be, ya call me a skeptic when someone says not to worry.

Choctaw20 Oct 2022 7:50 a.m. PST

Great. I can see some frat boy taking an infected mouse to a party to impress the sorority sisters.

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