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GeorgBuchner09 Oct 2022 1:28 a.m. PST

in the brigades i am making "Helfreich's Brigade" atm there are 23rd, 25th and 26th Jaeger infantry Polk – 2 battalions each.
Did these regiments (i am assuming these belong to regiments of the corresponding number) have any flags like the line infantry?

14Bore09 Oct 2022 2:05 a.m. PST

No no and no, even former musketeer regiments converted lost theirs

GeorgBuchner09 Oct 2022 4:36 a.m. PST

thanks for your reply, that is what i suspected

Shardik09 Oct 2022 11:37 a.m. PST

I have some of the old Minifigs Russian jager figures. They are wearing what looks a bit like a top hat. Are these from an earlier period?

rmaker09 Oct 2022 11:53 a.m. PST

Shardik – yes. They are pre-1809.

Desperate Dan10 Oct 2022 7:34 a.m. PST

..with uniforms of a lighter green hue than the line.

Shardik10 Oct 2022 12:05 p.m. PST

thanks

14Bore10 Oct 2022 1:22 p.m. PST

Some years ago getting bored a few of my Jagers are in top hats. Also it's the inspection era which is fun to paint

Mark J Wilson13 Oct 2022 9:54 a.m. PST

@14bore

Don't be indecisive there, I'd argue the ultimate proof was that the guard Jagers didn't carry them.

Michman13 Oct 2022 10:33 a.m. PST

On 13 April 1813, the Russian guard light infantry regiments was awarded St. George banners with the inscription "For distinction during the defeat and expulsion of the enemy from Russia in 1812". These were delivered on 24 December 1813. For each regiment, there were three identical banners, 1 per battalion, with an eagle atop the flagstaff.

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Life Guards Jäger Regiment

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Life-Guard Finland Regiment

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I do not know if the "delivery" was at Saint-Petersburg or to the regiments in the field. They likely did have them for the battles around Paris (and may or may not have actually used them) and for the occupation over the summer of 1814.

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The distinctive round "top hat" was only provided to the 1st, 4th, 7th, 14th, 15th, 16th, 18th and 19th Jäger at the beginning of 1803. It was replaced by the same shako as used by the Musketeers from 15 August 1803. Of the listed regiments, only the 7th Jäger partipated in the Austerlitz campaign, and they had likely already re-equipped with shakos.

The 14th Jäger served in Crimea and then the Mediterranean, the 15th and 16th Jäger served in the Caucasus and the 18th and 19th Jäger in Siberia. These might have worn the top-hat into 1805 or 1806.

Mark J Wilson15 Oct 2022 7:31 a.m. PST

@Michman,

I sit corrected, every day's a school day.

Michman15 Oct 2022 8:45 a.m. PST

@Mark J Wilson

"I sit corrected"
Not really. Or only with regard to reviews and parades after the peace in 1814.

It is unknown if the two guard light infantry regiments on campaign received their new banners before the peace – or even if received, if they actually used them. Personally, I doubt that they would want to risk new honorific St George banners in combat when they had never used any banner previously.

On the other hand, many people like to model every unit with a flag – so I posted the images.

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