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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian17 Sep 2022 10:30 p.m. PST

The war has become impossible to ignore in Belgorod, southern Russia, just miles from the border with Ukraine. Russian soldiers retreating from the Ukrainian counterattack now roam the streets. Air defences boom out overhead several times a day. The city is once again filled with refugees. And, at the border, Russian and Ukrainian soldiers stand within sight of each other…

The Guardian: link

Porthos18 Sep 2022 2:29 a.m. PST

The news suddenly made me think of "The short victorious war" by David Calder, describing the Russo-Japanese War of 1904.
Does history really repeats itself ?

OSCS7418 Sep 2022 6:05 a.m. PST

If I live by an oil or military storage facility or an army barracks I would be very concerned. They are reaping what they sowed, death and destruction.

torokchar Supporting Member of TMP18 Sep 2022 7:47 a.m. PST

Seems like we did the same thing in Korea seventy years ago – did not turn out very well……..

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP18 Sep 2022 9:42 a.m. PST

As I said on another thread here … The Ukraine should just retake their land, i.e. the Donbas and Crimea. Then if need be, set up a DMZ like in the ROK and Gitmo, between Russia and Ukraine. Even send in UN forces like on Cyprus and some of the states of the former Yugoslavia. IRCC, those UN missions are still active.

I had two tours on the Korean DMZ, '84-'85 … we still flew the UN flag at our FOB and Guard Posts. So yes … the UN is still there. Since 1953 … and the lines have not changed since then, AFAIK.

Thresher0118 Sep 2022 2:25 p.m. PST

I really doubt the Ukrainians will invade Russia, though if they do I'd love to see a quick strike, deep penetration raid on Moscow, immediately.

HMS Exeter18 Sep 2022 2:32 p.m. PST

It certainly seems the Ukrainians have been fighting a very Marquis of Queensbury Rules style of engagement. "Let's not do anything to overheat the Russians or alienate the west."

I have to think most of the Russians near the border understand the only thing holding the Ukrainians back is their own self restraint.

All the Ukrainians have to do is start dropping leaflets across the border with pictures of the mass graves, labeled "Russian Genocide" and with a large number "7."

The next day do the same with a "6."

By the time they got to "3," there wouldn't be a Russian within 30 miles of the border, and Moscow would be overrun with panicked people carrying lurid leaflets.

And if Putin did escalate, the west would loosen the leash.

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