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Prince Alberts Revenge03 Aug 2022 7:38 p.m. PST

Is there a list of air to air combat for the jet age? Looking for some interesting and nice aerial combat post-WW2.

We all know of the major ones: Korean War, Vietnam War, Falklands, Gulf Wars, etc but a list that includes lesser known stuff big and small (Ogaden, Greeks/Turkish, Ertrea, etc)? Thanks!

Dn Jackson Supporting Member of TMP03 Aug 2022 8:00 p.m. PST

Arab-Israeli
Soccer War – jet age with no jets

Tgerritsen Supporting Member of TMP03 Aug 2022 8:18 p.m. PST

Here's a great place to start. link

Thresher0103 Aug 2022 11:50 p.m. PST

Recon birds/civilian aircraft vs. Russian interceptors.

Pretty one-sided affairs, so not too interesting I suppose, except perhaps as solo affairs, but a number of US recon birds and civilian airliners have been shot down by Russian jets, and/or SAMs.

As mentioned, several Arab-Israeli wars and a "hot" peace with a number of battles.

Egypt vs. Libya, Taiwan vs. China, Iran vs. Iraq, etc.

Andrew LA04 Aug 2022 3:59 a.m. PST

South Africa vs Angola in the 1980s – Mirage F1s of the SAAF vs Angolan Mig 21s and Mig 23s. SAAF Impala attack jets versus Angolan Helicopters (MiMil24s and Mil8s) – the choppers lost!

Major Mike04 Aug 2022 6:48 a.m. PST

India vs Pakistan, 1965 link

Personal logo aegiscg47 Supporting Member of TMP04 Aug 2022 8:19 a.m. PST

You could play the Beqaa Valley in 1982. Have the Syrian players roll a D100 and on the roll of.a 1 they shoot down an Israeli aircraft. On any other result the Syrian aircraft is shot down!

Andrew Walters04 Aug 2022 11:28 a.m. PST

Definitely read Clashes: Air Combat Over North Vietnam, 1965-1972 by Marshall L. Michel III. Loads of detail. I'm not sure you can get anything like that level of detail about other jet-age air wars, and it gives you a lot of context about what's important and what's not and how things unfold.

Striker04 Aug 2022 8:29 p.m. PST

Offshoot of the topic: What are good jet age rules? I've got 1/300 planes so that's my scale. Does CY6 Jet age rules cover it fine or are there other favorites?

Prince Alberts Revenge05 Aug 2022 10:12 a.m. PST

Offshoot of the topic: What are good jet age rules?

Striker: I use Wings At War, usually Flames Above Falklands or Thud Ridge. I have also heard good things about Missile Threat although I have never played them.

Definitely read Clashes: Air Combat Over North Vietnam, 1965-1972 by Marshall L. Michel III.

Andrew Walters: thanks for the recommendation! I actually own that book but have never read it. I have aircraft for Vietnam (planning to use Thud Ridge) but have yet to paint up my American planes.

Thanks for all the input, much appreciated. Tgerritsen: the list you provided is fantastic.

Thresher0105 Aug 2022 8:48 p.m. PST

CY6 has a large following.

AirWar:C21 is another good one too.

For older jet actions, 1970s and earlier, Clash of Sabres is good too, though it may be hard to get these now – QRF used to sell them. I proposed some stats for early to mid-1980s jets so you could game the Falklands Conflict and Iran vs. Iraq too.

Striker06 Aug 2022 4:05 a.m. PST

Thanks for the rules recommendations. I've got CY6 and am about to get Airwar:C21. Got a bunch of planes for India-Pakistan and will probably do Iran-Iraq.

Thresher0106 Aug 2022 7:28 a.m. PST

I really like C21.

The combat system for it is very good, and the other stuff is acceptable.

A simple system with decent granularity, permitting quick play with multiple aircraft.

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