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GeorgBuchner02 Aug 2022 5:23 a.m. PST

in the midst of doing all my paper napoleonic stuff, i thought i might just see if WW2 armor might be possible and this is my initial uncolored test attempt – i think with some corrections and refinements it could work.

I am actually surprised that there dont seem to be any existing 6mm scale paper armor miniatures out there, at least not in the 3d model form.

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Personal logo ColCampbell Supporting Member of TMP02 Aug 2022 7:36 a.m. PST

That's pretty good for a first try. Much, much better than I could do.

Jim

olicana02 Aug 2022 12:17 p.m. PST

They are very nice and a interesting experiment into the possible.

BUT, with metal 1:300 tanks (Heroics & Ros, for example) selling at about £0.75 GBP a pop, it seems like a lot of hard fiddly work to build something that is ultimately crushable. If you can't make 20 or 30 an hour, it hardly seems worth it – time having value, etc.

Georg Buechner02 Aug 2022 2:04 p.m. PST

Yes, I guess it does make it pointless if the metal ones are so cheap, I guess it was just to see if it was possible -i how in this forum I might not be alone in just taking some enjoyment in making paper models despite what metal miniatures may already exist

and a guess it would be chance from me to paint up the tanks with Photoshop before printing and have a range of Camo options, but yeah otherwise it was a crappy bubble that one easily could burst as you have now done

Georg Buechner02 Aug 2022 3:32 p.m. PST

I just went to the heroics and Ros page and yes they are only 0.75gbp per tank – but that still adds up – I put 7 German and seven US tanks in my cart and comes to $30.00 USDaud and then add the cost of shipping on to that, prob another 20.oo to send to Australia, makes it expensive and then getting all the paints

A paper set if I ever made this decent enough to sell I would probably only set the price at 10.00aud and I would include a range of different tanks and different Camos,- it's paper yes and crushable yes but it would be cheap and better than just the 2d tanks at junior general (their tanks though are very nice nevertheless)

olicana04 Aug 2022 10:53 a.m. PST

Not knocking your effort, just questioning the logic. I'm in the UK and the last time I bought Heroics and Ros was for markers for off table artillery in a 15mm game: postage was minimal.

GeorgBuchner04 Aug 2022 8:56 p.m. PST

the logic is i like trying to make things with paper and i wondered how easy or hard it might be to make a ww2 tank and also – i am not in the UK so postage is a lot higher posting to australia and also things are expensive – it adds up so paper means i can do things on a budget

you might not be interested in it and the logic might not make sense to you but i am just interested in doing such things even if they arent the most obviously convenient approach

Martin Rapier04 Aug 2022 10:56 p.m. PST

I made a card model once (a 20mm Schneider CA) but with hindsight it would have been far easier to scratch build it out of plasticard. Whatever floats your boat though, you've done a nice job on that Panther.

GeorgBuchner05 Aug 2022 2:23 a.m. PST

thanks – what is plasticard? i was wondering what other materials one can make miniatures out of – in particular what materials can one carve a model from other than wood?

UshCha26 Aug 2022 12:20 a.m. PST

awsome. My paper models are very limited and crude. I did do a Modern Boxer and a Sew si-Fi.

I found that a few very light coats of Acrylic primer made it almost like plasticarf and then it could be painted with no distoirtion. What do you do?

GeorgBuchner30 Aug 2022 1:28 a.m. PST

well i havent painted anything yet – my thoughts would be to just colour it via digital painting – this is what i am doing for my 3mm and 6mm paper napoleonics project.

my other thought is to go the route of making the pieces as blocks with the tank sides painted ont eh 5 visible block sides -this is an easier less fiddly way to go if all else fails.

Once i finish my napoleonics (which will take a while) i will work more on ww2 era

Tabletop General14 Sep 2022 7:24 a.m. PST

The paper tank looks awesome and at 1:300 scale that really takes some paper skill I tried it as well for 10mm. We can do it by compromising on some curved surfaces at this scale.

I am writing from India, I may be one of the few in this hobby from India. My struggle is with minis too the import duty is way too much. 3D paper minis are the only alternative.

GeorgBuchner15 Sep 2022 1:13 p.m. PST

thanks Tabletop General, yes i am in australia and the minis i want are all overseas and costly, but also being that i am a visual artist i am more drawn to making paper minis as i feel like it is fully my own creation as i can paint the model to be up in photoshop, pixel by pixel at that scale

for the tank i had to take the diagram drawing of it and work out what would need to be folded and where and what folds are and are not possible or necessary, but nevertheless it can be done and there are probably better ways to do it then my first attempts here

Daribuck Supporting Member of TMP24 Sep 2022 12:46 p.m. PST

Just a question on the cost of shipping, Import Duties, customs, whatever. At some point, is STL/3D Printing worth looking into? Just curious!

Georg Buechner05 Oct 2022 1:36 p.m. PST

3d printing seems worthwhile if you can get the items printed locally or at least in your own country, and if you can get some good files that aren't too expensive – and there are lots available to buy from places like myminifactory website

Getting the items at the usual scales doesn't seem hard but if you are after smaller scales like 2mm-6mm it can be a bit harder to find a service that will be aable print them- I've had to try three times to get some 2mm Napoleonic minis printed at different printers

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