| Georg Buechner | 01 Aug 2022 2:23 a.m. PST |
Hi, I am just making some paper WW2 Armor – and was going off the measurement of a panther tank at 1:300 scale being about 2.2 CMS in hull length -is this roughly correct? It kind still looks big to me, so I would love to know what the 1:285 and 1:300 actual miniature panther dimensions are – if someone here might be so kind to tell what the measurements are? |
| Martin Rapier | 01 Aug 2022 2:37 a.m. PST |
The Panther was a big old tank (it did weigh 45 tons!). In 1/300th scale it is 2.29 cm x 1.09 cm excluding side skirts. A Sherman by contrast is 1.94cm x 0.86 cm (some variants are bigger). A Panthers actual hull dimensions are 687 cm x 327 cm. Just divide by 300 or 285 to find the scale dimensions. |
| GeorgBuchner | 01 Aug 2022 3:56 a.m. PST |
thanks Martin – and are these the measurements you find on actual 6mm panther tank metal miniatures? i am just curious |
Mark 1  | 01 Aug 2022 4:46 p.m. PST |
The Panther was a big old tank… Martin – I would agree with you if only you chose some stronger wording. It was not so much a big old tank as a huge frikkin' tank. It is not particularly obvious when seen on it's own, due in large part to the proportions of the design. The hull is wider, longer and higher than most other tanks of its time, but the turret is not notably larger. The proportions deceive the eye if you don't have other items close at hand to compare. It gives the overall impression of a tank that is sleek and low slung, when in fact it is REALLY big. It kind still looks big to me…
Still looks big to me, too.
I am not claiming to be particularly tall, but there are very few WW2 era tanks that have a hull that is taller than me.
The Sherman is often decried as too tall for it's own good. If we don't count the AAMG, the Panther comes out as 8 -10 inches (20-25cm) taller -- depending on whether you are measuring to the turret roof, or the top of the cupola (and whether the Sherman you are looking at even had a cupola). This is a picture of a Sherman tank taken by someone in the Panther tank of the prior picture. We are staring each other down, and what you may notice is that the angle from the guy in the Panther is looking down on the Sherman (ain't THAT the truth!). -Mark
(aka: Mk 1) |
| GeorgBuchner | 01 Aug 2022 4:56 p.m. PST |
but the Panther is still much smaller than current day tanks yes? the Leopard tanks now look enormous |
| Mark 1 | 01 Aug 2022 5:25 p.m. PST |
Looking down from above perhaps. But from the front not at all. Can't say too much about a Leopard, as I've never seen one in person. But an Abrams -- the hull top does not even reach my shoulder except at the back (the rear deck is a bit higher behind the turret), and the turret while wide is very low. Total height is more than a foot (30cm), maybe closer to a foot-and-a-half (45cm) less than a Panther (again depending on all the stuff put on top). Width and length:
Panther: 3.27m x 6.87m (Martin's numbers)
Abrams: 3.6m x 7.9m So yes, a bit wider and longer. -Mark
(aka: Mk 1) |
| Martin Rapier | 01 Aug 2022 11:41 p.m. PST |
" are these the measurements you find on actual 6mm panther tank metal miniatures" No idea, I haven't measured them but I'd be amazed if Heroics and GHQ weren't 1/300 and 1/285 respectively. As for Baccus, that is anyone's guess. I think their stuff is about 1/240. |
| Black Bull | 04 Aug 2022 3:21 p.m. PST |
Leopard 2 is about the same height as a Panther, Sherman was too tall compared to others in its weight class T34,Cromwell,Pz IV.
Worth remembering that the Panther was 10% heavier than the Churchill and Pershing and the same as the IS 2 yet it gets called a medium tank. |
| williamb | 07 Aug 2022 9:30 a.m. PST |
Leopard 2A6s 7.72x3.75x3.0
M1 Abrams 7.93x3.66x2.44
T90 6.86x3.78x2.22
Panther 6.87x3.27(3.42 skirts)x2.99
Sherman (5.84-6.27)x(2.62-3.0)x(2.74-2.97) depending on version |
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