"General de brigade in 6mm" Topic
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Georg Buechner | 10 Jul 2022 7:19 p.m. PST |
Hi, I was wondering if any folks here have used the GdB rules in 6mm and if so what kind of basing did you use? Was there any rebasing needed? The rules say you can do 6mm with some modifications but they don't suggest anything for unit appearances. This query is just going towards helping my paper 6mm project so I can ensure what I make can suit a range of rules |
Georg Buechner | 10 Jul 2022 7:54 p.m. PST |
Sorry not sure why this query got duplicated |
Georg Buechner | 11 Jul 2022 5:17 p.m. PST |
Okay the duplication is gone now so my message above makes no sense |
robert piepenbrink | 12 Jul 2022 6:37 p.m. PST |
Here's the best I found on their basing system: link But taking a set largely intended for 15mm and using 6mm, you always have two basic options--either keep the frontage and double the number of castings or keep the number of castings and halve the frontage and all distances. In this case, given that would reduce your frontage to 15mm, I'd double the castings unless you're really short of space. 15mm x 12mm bases are just a bit finicky for most people. |
Yellow Admiral | 12 Jul 2022 7:47 p.m. PST |
The problem with doubling the castings is that GdB is a 1:20 figure-counting game. You would also have to either modify all the charts, or have a house rule like "each figure counts half". (On the bright side, a table full of 40-96 figure infantry units would look impressive.) Personally, I'd probably just ignore the figure ratio and give each stand a value, then use some kind of attractive counter to count down each unit to a stand removal.
This isn't much different than the way the game plays in 15mm with kill rings or counters or markers. A unified basing scheme is the unicorn of Napoleonics gaming. I'd advise it would be better to pick one or two of the major basing paradigms and ignore the one(s) you won't play with: - One base per unit
- A set number of bases per unit (usu. 4, or a small range like 4-6)
- Figure ratio
- The Bruce Quarrie standard (still used by Le Feu Sacre)
- Whatever the heck you call the Napoleon's Battles basing scheme
I'm sure I'm forgetting a half dozen, forgive me. - Ix |
GeorgBuchner | 13 Jul 2022 2:13 a.m. PST |
oh i do like that base with the counter on it! i think i would have to always go with have the figures per base not representing the actual number of men on it and i prefer it that way, that makes it most flexible across a couple of rules that i like |
robert piepenbrink | 13 Jul 2022 3:37 p.m. PST |
I'd have said "each figure counts half" was not beyond the capacity of the average wargamer. Am I wrong? But I think you've hit the major contenders, Yellow Admiral--except that often in tactical Napoleonics you hit the CLS/ITGM system of a base per company at 1:20 or thereabouts. When I first looked at GdB, I thought it was going to be another one. But I'm not sure "figure ratio" is a basing system. Am I missing something? (And didn't we do this like last week? As part of that "how many Napoleonics rules do we need?" thread?) My recollection was something like: --Individually based. --Based on a uniform frontage. --CLS/ITGM --Bases added up to make up unit strength--in Empire and NB variants, though it's sort of possible to satisfy both. --Really weird. (What sticks in my mind is Marshal's Baton which wanted a particular number of 6mm figures on each base and would not work with any other basing system unless you bolted on even more bookkeeping. I'm sure there are others.) Me? MY old CLS armies in 30mm. My 28mm horse & musket are individually based. My 6mm and 2mm Napoleonics are based to a constant frontage. If none of those work, someone else has to provide the troops. |
robert piepenbrink | 13 Jul 2022 4:25 p.m. PST |
P.S. I'm inclined to think ANY system which specifies a base size and then also wants me to count figure casualties instead of removing bases is just trying to be difficult. If you want to be a roster game, have rosters and be done with it. Otherwise, just remove (or mark off) figures or remove bases. |
Georg Buechner | 14 Jul 2022 6:52 p.m. PST |
Well as you know for me I am making some 6mm paper armies and so I can't physically remove figures in that case so I would have to roster things as you say, which is fine by me as I am just doing things solo |
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