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Rittmester Supporting Member of TMP02 Jul 2022 11:38 a.m. PST

I am looking for online sources for the Campaign in Germany 1800, especially the OOB of the Austrian Army at the Battle of Möskirch (Messkirch) and Engen in May 1800.
I am looking for detailed info which includes the names of the different Brigade commanders, especially of the cavalry. Information on the personnel in the staff of General Kray, and also Archduke Charles, would be very interesting.

The purpose is primarily to identify the role of Major General Prince Christian August of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Augustenburg (later Crown Prince of Sweden in 1810).

I have studied the Nafziger OOBs, but they are not detailed enough regarding this issue.

MightyOwl03 Jul 2022 2:49 a.m. PST

Have you seen this?


Page 12

"But in the following year the war with France broke out again, and once again the prince, after receiving permission, hurried to Defterreidy, where, in recognition of his merits, he was employed and commissioned as Oberfeldwachtmeister (major general) of the cavalry (April 30, 1799 . ) As commander of a brigade , he took part in the campaign of 1800 and was not only involved in numerous events , but also actively involved . In the battle of Engen (May 3rd) the prince was lightly wounded by a grapeshot; near Moskirch (5 May) he was stabbed by a bayonet, but not dangerously. When an armistice was signed between August of this year, he traveled home on vacation, to Augustenburg"

Detailed OOBs for the Austrian Army in Germany in 1800 are hard to find. Ernest Picard's La Campagne de 1800 has some information but it's not much more detailed than Nafziger.

The Schematicus for 1800 lists him as a major general but just says he was with the army.

Rittmester Supporting Member of TMP03 Jul 2022 6:11 p.m. PST

Thank you.
That was very helpful, also regarding his service in 1797.
I have also sent a request to Lee Sather who wrote Christian August's biography for some assistance, so hopefully he might point me to more if there is anything more to study.

I have ordered the two wolumes on the War of the Second Coalition by George Armand Furse, perhaps they will shed more light on this.

Nafziger's Austrian OOB for 1800 with Kray as commander shows two or three possible formations where he may have commanded:

Center: Feldmarschallieutenant Nauendorf
Corps: Feldmarschallieutenants Vogelsang, Erzherzog Ferdinand,
Anhalt-Coethen, Sporch, Kospoth & Kempf
Brigade: Generalmajor Bolda
Erbach Infantry Regiment (2,397)
Erzherzog Ferdinand Infantry Regiment (2,403)
62nd Infantry Regiment (2,395)
Schroeder Infantry Regiment (2,4l0)
Erzherzog Karl Infantry Regiment (2,400)
von Kerpen Infantry Regiment (2,394)
von Stein Infantry Regiment (2,397)
Unidentified Infnatry (7,l94)
Grenadiers (6 bns)(4,5l4)
Hussars (603)
Dragoons (900)

Corps: Feldmarschallieutenants Baillet La Tour, Karl von
Lothringen & Lindenauer
Brigade: Generalmajor O'Donel
Erzherzog Ferdinand Dragoon Regiment (920)
Coburg Dragoon Regiment (808)
Modene Dragoon Regiment (905)
Hohenzollern Cuirassier Regiment (9l0)
Emperor Cuirassier Regiment (893)
Erzherzog Frederick Cuirassier Regiment (89l)
von Ablert Cuirassier Regiment (890)
Anspach Cuirassier Regiment (907)
Nassau Cuirassier Regiment (888)
Zechwitz Cuirassier Regiment (895)

Rittmester Supporting Member of TMP03 Jul 2022 6:28 p.m. PST


Do you knnow if Arnold's Marengo and Hohenlinden contains an OOB of Kray's army at Stockach-Engen?

Rittmester Supporting Member of TMP04 Jul 2022 1:09 a.m. PST

I have narrowed it down with Digby Smith's Data Book, as Christian August fought in the battles of Stockach-Engen 3rd May, Mösskirch 5th May and Neuburg 27th June 1800 (I have not found out what Sather means by the Battle of Nordlingen – could it be Höchstädt?).
The only cavalry regiments who were present at all three battles were:

Cuirassier Regiment #12 Kinsky
Dragoon Regiment #11 Latour

MightyOwl04 Jul 2022 3:40 a.m. PST

The 10th Stipiscz Hussars were also at Engen and Mösskirch. Kinsky was a light dragoon regiment in 1800 not a cuirassier one.

The information is from reading Alphons Wrede's unit histories.

Arnold's book does not have a OOB for the early campaign in Germany.

Rittmester Supporting Member of TMP07 Jul 2022 3:49 p.m. PST

Thanks again Mighty.

I have started to delve into the unit histories and discovered that there is a lot of info which needs to be puzzled together. Great resource i just had heard about, but never found online.
I looks like it can answer a few other questions I had as well. I'll get back to you when I have organized to get an overview.

Rittmester Supporting Member of TMP27 Jul 2022 2:27 p.m. PST


Arnold gave a quite good bibliographical review and a good source describing the initial part of the campaign in Germany is given in Saint-Cyr's Mémoires pour servir a l'histoire militaire sous le directoire, Le Consulat, et l'empire. Vol 2.

I split the file in Adobe to get it in workable sizes and then created new ocr readable pdfs via word. Then I translated the document by chapters into english. Works for me :)
I can send you the translated files if you would like.

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