Druzhina | 22 Jun 2022 3:37 p.m. PST |
Ukrainian entrenched position on the road to Lysychansk. On Google maps M777s were destroyed here on Jun 22, 2022 from GeoConfirmed, a useful resource to see where things are happening. ---
Recent Satellite Imagery- Shows Russians Are Building Entrenching Positions Around Voskresenka and Polohy, GeoConfirmed, Jun 23, 2022. larger image--- Video of Russian trenches and dugout near Roty, Donetsk Oblast, GeoConfirmed, Jun 23, 2022.
Just copy and paste the coordinates into Google maps to find the place. No need to use degree, minute or second symbols. Druzhina Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers
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emckinney | 22 Jun 2022 4:54 p.m. PST |
What's particularly interesting about the location where the M777s were destroyed is how far forward it is: Severodonetsk is what, 25% of the M777's max range from there? The recent FIRMS data explains it, though. There's evidence of artillery strikes way, way in the Russian rear, and the maximum depth of the strikes implies an arc centered on the general area where the M777s were operating. |
Prince Rupert of the Rhine | 23 Jun 2022 1:30 a.m. PST |
Seeing that I can't help wondering if WW1 might have looked a bit different if the generals, back then, had had access to Google maps… |
ROUWetPatchBehindTheSofa | 23 Jun 2022 8:38 a.m. PST |
Some of those images are very redolent of another era. |
Legion 4 ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 23 Jun 2022 9:35 a.m. PST |
Interesting photos … The M777, IIRC has a 20 mile range. But AFAIK/IIRC the Russian's predilection is with their artillery. E.g. a BTG has a much FA as Infantry. It seems they are fighting a war of attrition, almost WWI style. They don't appear to, again not use combined arms modern mobile maneuver warfare. Or at least not very effectively. Of course many Russian FA pieces outrange all of the Ukraine FA. However, if the reports are correct, the Ukraine's FA is more accurate. With more high tech devises, etc. from the US, etc. Albeit the Russians still have numbers in FA. At least for now. |
Druzhina | 26 Jun 2022 11:10 p.m. PST |
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Druzhina | 30 Jun 2022 2:08 a.m. PST |
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UshCha | 12 Jul 2022 2:39 a.m. PST |
very interesting I finaly got round to looking at thr posted picture on googl maps. The position is about 400m at it's widest, so for I would suggest a platoon or even less. At that size its a real wagamable example of a prepared position on a crossroads, proabley useable for WW2 onwards. Its alaways interesting to see real positions and how they are laid out> It is interesting that the large ditch at the top looks like an anti-tank ditch but too me it's a bit close to the position but you live and learn. |
Legion 4 ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 12 Jul 2022 8:27 a.m. PST |
The engagement ranges of almost all weapons today is longer. Plus much more firepower all the way to Plt/Sqd levels. Especially based on WWII or the Korean War. |
Druzhina | 13 Jul 2022 2:14 a.m. PST |
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Druzhina | 28 Jul 2022 2:13 p.m. PST |
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Legion 4 ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 28 Jul 2022 5:50 p.m. PST |
Wow ! Wouldn't have wanted to be on the ground there ! |
Dragon Gunner | 28 Jul 2022 5:52 p.m. PST |
If the Russians don't follow up these artillery bombardments with a ground assault immediately afterword they will never win. |
Druzhina | 15 Aug 2022 1:33 p.m. PST |
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Druzhina | 18 Aug 2022 4:10 p.m. PST |
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Legion 4 ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 18 Aug 2022 6:27 p.m. PST |
Well that makes things a lot easier ! |
UshCha | 19 Aug 2022 1:23 a.m. PST |
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foxbat ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 19 Aug 2022 4:37 a.m. PST |
Looks like the place to ask a question .wink. Seen several of these in UA positions, who made them and when? Thanks in advance
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Druzhina | 20 Aug 2022 8:26 p.m. PST |
A video on TASS of April 22 includes this image. The described heavily fortified area and "long-term fortification structures" probably mean it was on the Line-OF-Control. It may have been there for years. The image only appears on Russian and Chinese sites. I didn't find any other info about the structure. Druzhina Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers
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Druzhina | 10 Sep 2022 4:41 p.m. PST |
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Druzhina | 06 Oct 2022 2:47 p.m. PST |
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Legion 4 ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 08 Oct 2022 9:40 a.m. PST |
Again, very poor training, discipline, leadership, etc., etc. |
UshCha | 08 Oct 2022 6:09 p.m. PST |
I think this period will never get too much attention from wargamers, the Russians have (thankfully) ruined it. The Russian player will have to put all his troops on the table while the Ukrains hide theire, as their disapline is such that they cannot hide (as shown above). The disparity in training and lack of conviction in their cause makes them too brittle to be "interesting" and the diparity in technology now heading back towards little improved 1962 tecnology vs proably 2000 to 2022 tecnology is just too big to make a game interesting. |
Legion 4 ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 08 Oct 2022 6:38 p.m. PST |
Well you could war game it … but the Russian CinC/Morale rules may be hard to deal with. If anyone has ever played the old S&T game Kampfpanzer. E.g. The French had a very hard time, with random activation Die(s) rolls. |
Andy ONeill | 09 Oct 2022 2:40 a.m. PST |
There's a fair bit of small unit combat could be interesting. Admittedly, the lack of direction on the Russian side might be a bit of a downer for the Russian player. The good news is you have alllll these assets. The bad news…. |
Druzhina | 12 Oct 2022 1:00 p.m. PST |
larger imageThe Russians are creating a defense line in the Luhasnk Oblast reminiscent of the Second World War. The defensive line consists of two rows of "dragon's teeth", followed by a trench probably meant to stop vehicles, then firing positions for infantry and vehicles. … @einsteinradler Replying to @COUPSURE The trencher is more likely a MDK-3 trenchdigger, for the trench is wider than an infantry trench and rather an anti-tank ditch. Benjamin Pittet @COUPSURE Replying to @einsteinradler Yeah my bad, thanks for the clarification! Benjamin Pittet, Oct 13, 2022. … Video of the position, Saint Javelin, Oct 12, 2022. … Hirs'ke on Google Maps. Druzhina Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers
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