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Personal logo Stosstruppen Supporting Member of TMP21 Jun 2022 4:58 a.m. PST

So I bought some 20mm FAA PGs long ago and I am now painting them. three of the figures have a stick looking weapon with a handguard/trigger mechanism toward the bottom front of the tube. There is nothing else on the tube, just that. At first it looked like a flame thrower, but there are no tanks or tubing. Then I thought, maybe it is something along the lines of a LAW? Did the Germans have such a thing?

Marc33594 Supporting Member of TMP21 Jun 2022 5:18 a.m. PST

Sounds an awful lot like a panzerfaust minus the warhead. Sure someone will have something better.

Col Durnford21 Jun 2022 5:37 a.m. PST

Agreed that it sounds like a panzerfaust. Since it was a one use weapon, my guess is you have some miscast figures with the warhead missing.

Pictures or package code would be helpful.

Personal logo Stosstruppen Supporting Member of TMP21 Jun 2022 7:14 a.m. PST

I thought maybe PF as well but the firing mech is a handle with a guard. There are two different poses one with is slung on his back. here is a picture, not very good, guy 4th from left standing (3rd from left being the kneeling guy)

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Personal logo Artilleryman Supporting Member of TMP21 Jun 2022 8:19 a.m. PST

With trigger and guard, it sounds like a Panzerschrek hence no warhead. Also, one depicted slung over a figure's back again sounds like a Panzerschrek. The Panzerfaust had no carrying strap. Maybe the sculptor got the dimensions slightly wrong.

Personal logo Extra Crispy Sponsoring Member of TMP21 Jun 2022 8:22 a.m. PST

Didn't the schreck have a shield? Or was that optional?

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Steve Wilcox21 Jun 2022 8:28 a.m. PST

It says "Rifle squad armed with MP-44's, an MG-42, and a panzerfaust 100. Some have night scopes on their MP-44's."

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Still looks weird to me, especially as it says Panzerfaust 100 singular (and the warhead on that one looks more like one from a Panzerfaust 150 or 250).

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP21 Jun 2022 8:49 a.m. PST

I think it would be a brave man indeed who fired a Panzerschreck without a shield

Personal logo Stosstruppen Supporting Member of TMP21 Jun 2022 8:49 a.m. PST

I am figuring the PF as a 150 it has the pointy warhead, others in the range have the more common barrel shaped one. I thought of a Panzerschrek but its shorter, the trigger is too far forward, and of course no shield. Its an oddity.

Personal logo Artilleryman Supporting Member of TMP21 Jun 2022 10:15 a.m. PST

Good point about the shield.

Personal logo Extra Crispy Sponsoring Member of TMP21 Jun 2022 12:05 p.m. PST

I can't believe this thread has gone more than 4 posts without a definitive answer….

Steve Wilcox21 Jun 2022 1:10 p.m. PST

I think it would be a brave man indeed who fired a Panzerschreck without a shield

They used gas masks for protection before the shields were developed. It looked pretty eerie:

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bergflak.com/psshield.html

Personal logo Mserafin Supporting Member of TMP21 Jun 2022 3:01 p.m. PST

I thought the original plan was for the man firing the Panzerschrek to duck his head so that the gasses from the burning rocket would hit the top of his helmet. Not only does that sound insane, but they only dropped the plan when it became obvious that the operators prioritized ducking their heads over keeping the weapon pointed at the target.

I can only assume the gas masks shown above were "Plan B," which also failed to produce the desired effect.

Personal logo Mserafin Supporting Member of TMP21 Jun 2022 3:18 p.m. PST

So I poked around the FAA website to see if I glean a clue. I note that the command pack includes guys with "Luftfausts," which may be the Fliegerfaust, which fired multiple rockets at low-flying aircraft. But the thing your figure is holding looks to short to be that.

However, given that they make figures with the AA Faust, and everyone else has an STG, I presume it's some sort of late war Wonder Weapon. Do a search for the "Einstossflammenwerfer," a one-shot flamethrower.

And, if it's not that, you can always ask the folks at FAA what they think it is!

Mark

Personal logo Stosstruppen Supporting Member of TMP21 Jun 2022 6:06 p.m. PST

Looks like Mark has the answer. The casting is close enough to this to make me think that is what it is. Thanks! I appreciate the help.

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Martin Rapier22 Jun 2022 11:52 p.m. PST

I was going to suggest the disposable flamethrower as an option. Not exactly a common weapon! Do the Stg 44s have IR sights as well? Maybe it is a special pack of ultra late war figures?

Personal logo Stosstruppen Supporting Member of TMP23 Jun 2022 5:08 a.m. PST

Yes they are packaged as 1945 grenadiers. Some have the IR sights, this flamethrower, the AA rockets, and the PF 150.

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