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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian15 Jun 2022 12:48 p.m. PST

…"We have basically located the origin in time and space, which is really remarkable," said Prof Johannes Krause at the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig. "We found not only the ancestor of the Black Death, but the ancestor of the majority of the plague strains that are circulating in the world today."…

The Guardian: link

Grattan54 Supporting Member of TMP15 Jun 2022 7:06 p.m. PST

Let me guess, it came from Wuhan.

Zephyr115 Jun 2022 9:01 p.m. PST

They still keep blaming rat fleas, but I have suspicions that it was also spread by mites (or similar vermin) hitching rides on birds…

Personal logo Der Alte Fritz Sponsoring Member of TMP16 Jun 2022 7:37 a.m. PST

Reading the article, the suggestion is that the Black Death virus originated in China.

Puster Sponsoring Member of TMP16 Jun 2022 3:00 p.m. PST

Kyrgyzstan ist not China, though its bordering one of its remote regions.
Rats are still the main suspect for carrier – birts are out as the spread rate and ways does not conform to our winged suspects. The houserat was later replaced in Europe by a different subspecies of rat that holds more distance to humans, which correlates heavily with the reduction of infections.

I simply suggest to actually read the article.

marmont1814 Sponsoring Member of TMP17 Jun 2022 1:59 p.m. PST

haemorrhagic fever the real culprit, rats in the middle ages where in ports and didnt travel far so humans carried it

Fat Wally18 Jun 2022 12:08 a.m. PST

Also Body lice a major contributor. Dividing up a deceased clothing amongst the family, sharing beds etc.

Druzhina18 Jun 2022 3:00 p.m. PST

Finding a spot in Kyrgyzstan where there was plague does not make it the origin.

"Inscriptions on some of the tombstones mentioned the cause of death as "mawtānā", the Syriac language term for "pestilence"."

An investigation into why a Syriac term was used might be more interesting.

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