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Tango0128 Mar 2023 10:12 p.m. PST

Foreign reinforcements from 50 countries join the fight against Russia in Ukraine


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Ukraine Situation Report: Challenger Tanks, Stryker Armored Vehicles Arrive In Country

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Everything You Need To Know About the Bridge-Laying Patton Tanks Headed for Ukraine

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Armand

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP29 Mar 2023 8:18 a.m. PST

Good news ! Keep those AFVs, etc. coming !

Tango0129 Mar 2023 9:53 p.m. PST

Bulgaria's Pro-Kremlin Leader Refuses To Send Soviet-Era Fighter Jets And Tanks To Ukraine

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Ukraine Zelensky Explains Why Russia Must Not Win In The Battle For Bakhmut


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‘A totally different fight': How the Army is preparing its ‘most modern' brigade for a mission in Europe

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Armand

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP30 Mar 2023 8:06 a.m. PST

Zelensky knows the losses at Bakhmut inflicted on the Russians are very high. If the Russians don't take Bakhmut with these high losses in a meatgrinder Putin's days are probably numbered.

That is why the US/NATO, etc. have to keep supporting the Ukraine. If a peace is brokered with the Russians holding the small parts of Ukraine that they do. E.g. the Donbas and Crimea. Those Russian occupied areas will only be used to stage a future invasion once the Russians refit, resupply, etc.

Tango0130 Mar 2023 10:30 p.m. PST

A Quarter Of Austria's Parliament Walks Out During Zelensky Address


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Did Russia Attack And Dstroy A NATO Command Center In Ukraine Killing 40 Western 'Advisers'?


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Turkish Parliament Approves Finland's NATO Membership


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Peace Time: Options In Ukraine


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Information Warfare: Worldwide Disagreements About Ukraine War


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Armand

Tango0131 Mar 2023 10:01 p.m. PST

Hungarian Prime Minister Says Europe Close To Deciding On Deploying Peacekeeping Troops in Ukraine

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Armand

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP01 Apr 2023 8:01 a.m. PST

Hmmmm ? That should be interesting. Sending in "Peacekeepers" ? But if Russia holds any of Ukraine's territory Zelinsky et al won't go for it. I tend to agree. Russia will just use those areas as jumping off points for a future invasion.

Do not trust Putin/Russia …

Druzhina01 Apr 2023 1:44 p.m. PST

"European leaders are close to discussing whether the European Union can send peacekeeping troops to Ukraine, Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán was quoted as saying on Friday"

Orbán is pro-Putin, he doesn't speak for the EU.

Hungary‘s Orban didn‘t applaud to Zelensky, @runews, Feb 9, 2023.

"Hungary has refused to supply Kyiv with weapons, despite appeals from Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to Western leaders for military supplies."

Hungarian industry has however been allowed to sell arms to 3rd parties that may or may not pass them on to Ukraine, because Hungary needs the money.


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Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP01 Apr 2023 6:14 p.m. PST

Orbán is pro-Putin, he doesn't speak for the EU.
He has made that very clear recently that he is BFFs with Vlad. Even if Hungary has been a member of NATO since 1999, IIRC. And most in NATO are sending weapons to the Ukraine[who is not a NATO or EU member]. old fart

Tango0101 Apr 2023 9:04 p.m. PST

US Joint Chiefs of Staff Rules Out Supplying Long Range Missiles To Ukraine


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NATO is getting bigger, but little will change for US troops, experts say


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Armand

Tango0103 Apr 2023 9:55 p.m. PST

Was There A U.S. Nuclear Weapons Accident At Vokel Air Base In The Netherlands?


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Ukraine gears up for counteroffensive with influx of Western weapons

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Ukraine is now fielding 1940s-era anti-aircraft guns as artillery

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Armand

Tango0104 Apr 2023 10:26 p.m. PST

Ukraine has already received 68 European tanks out of the 282 promised


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Ukrainian soldiers trained in US back home to form two brigades equipped with Bradley IFVs and Stryker ICVs


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First UK trial of heavy Unmanned Ground Vehicles showcases innovative military technology


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BvS10 All-Terrain Amphibious tracked vehicles are now used by Ukrainian army


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Marder 1A3 tracked armored IFVs donated by Germany enter into service with Ukrainian army

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Armand

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP05 Apr 2023 8:28 a.m. PST

Sounds good ! As soon as all the West's, etc. equipment on th ground, training on new systems is completed. I suspect the Ukraine will go on the offensive. Sooner than later.

Russia may try to step up their attempts at offensive ops in prep for the Ukraine's Forces with all that new equipment. To go on the offensive, rolling hot …

Tango0105 Apr 2023 10:05 p.m. PST

French Government Approves The Biggest Military Spending Spree In Over 50 Years

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Pentagon Says 77 Percent of Military-Age Americans Are Too Fat Or Too Mentally Ill For Service


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Armand

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP06 Apr 2023 3:13 p.m. PST

Yep Tango we have discussed this many times before … From the Pentagon – 70+% of the military age males in the US population is can't pass the Physical Training tests, nor the Physical, ASVAB, the psych eval, plus have criminal records.

And it does not look like it is going to get any better any time soon. The US Military needs to prep for war, get their fighting skill honed to a sharp point. As it looks like the US may have to fight outnumbered if things get very bad.

And woke, DEI, CRT/1619, transgender, etc. topics should not be taught to the Military. Waste of time and probably $. USD It is divisive and divides not unites. It does not bring those that will have to fight together in cohesive combat units.

The Pentagon needs to fire the 2 or more civilians there, that teaches, supports, advocates, etc. this woke, DEI, CRT/1619, transgender, Bleeped text

Our Military need to be warfighters … period …

Tango0107 Apr 2023 10:33 p.m. PST

Armor: Poland Rearms Big Time

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Peace Time: Options In Ukraine

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Artillery: A Very Long Range 155mm Guided Shell

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Armand

Tango0109 Apr 2023 9:35 p.m. PST

Leaked U.S. Military Documents A Russian Fighter Jet Nearly Shot Down An Unarmed British Reconnaissance Plane Over The Black Sea In September

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Armand

Tango0119 Apr 2023 10:13 p.m. PST

Ukrainian naval infantry receives from France AMX-10RC anti-tank armored vehicles

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Ukrainian soldiers train with PT-91 Twardy tanks donated by Poland

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US Bradley M2A2 Tracked Armored IFVs now on combat duty in Ukraine

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Canadian Leopard 2A4 tanks arrive in Poland to be delivered to Ukraine


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First Danish Leopard 1A5 tanks soon ready for Ukraine

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Netherlands reveals list of weapons & combat vehicles sent to Ukraine

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Finland donates 152K89 Russian 2A36 Giatsint-B 152mm towed guns to Ukraine

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Armand

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP20 Apr 2023 1:55 p.m. PST

Alright ! Sounds like a good start !

Tango0120 Apr 2023 10:37 p.m. PST

U.S. Navy Plans To Expand Its Submarine Fleet At A Cost Of $200 USD Billion


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U.S. Navy To Get New Unique Submarine

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Armand

Tango0121 Apr 2023 10:23 p.m. PST

14 Leopard 2 Tanks gifted to Ukraine by Netherlands and Denmark


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Armand

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP22 Apr 2023 10:55 a.m. PST

I have heard reports that the USA already have Hypersonic missiles. Just does not talk about as it is probably very classified … So, who knows ? Good idea not to show your enemies all your cards … ♠♣♥♦🃏

Glad to see the Leos on the ground … This will be an interesting Spring …

Tango0101 May 2023 9:09 p.m. PST

Czech Republic delivers to Ukraine modernized MLRS rocket launchers BM-21MT


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List of the 808 tanks that Ukraine will receive from NATO allies with a part already delivered


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Poland increases production of Krab self-propelled howitzers to be transferred to Ukraine


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German Skynex air defense systems deployed and ready in Ukraine to fight Russian aerial threats


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Slovenia secretly delivers 20 Valuk Armored Personnel Carrier vehicles to Ukraine

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Italy to deliver Ukraine with 40 additional M109L 155mm self-propelled howitzers

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Armand

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP02 May 2023 7:37 a.m. PST

Finally, NATO/US, etc. is starting to get a lot more "heavy metal" on the ground. For the Ukraine to push the imperialist Russians out of their homeland. And kill many of them … in doing so …

Tango0104 May 2023 10:17 p.m. PST

Czech-made MR-2 Viktor anti-aircraft vehicles deployed to Ukraine combat zone


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Germany's donated Leopard 2A6 tanks empower Ukraine's 1st Tank Brigade against Russian Forces


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US delivers M109A6 155mm self-propelled howitzers to Ukraine's 118th Mechanized Brigade

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Denmark to offer USD250 million additional military aid package to Ukrainian army

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European Commission dedicating 500 million EUR to increase European production of ammunition and switch to war economy mode

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Armand

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP06 May 2023 9:27 a.m. PST

Looks like NATO and the Ukraine are getting ready for a "big party". With Putin and the Russians as surprise guests.

Tango0106 May 2023 10:07 p.m. PST

NATO To Open Japan Office


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And China …


China calls for ‘high vigilance' over NATO's ‘eastward expansion' in Asia

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Armand

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP07 May 2023 9:29 a.m. PST

NATO liaison office being opened in Japan. Hmmm … that is a very interesting move. Again, may act as a deterrence to Xi or Un.


Xi is using Putin lines about the expansion of NATO. Didn't work for Vlad, so …

Tango0107 May 2023 9:31 p.m. PST

Russian Jet Intercepts Polish Border Plane On Patrol Over The Black Sea

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Armand

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP08 May 2023 8:02 a.m. PST

As usual the Russians are pushing the envelope. The Russians & PRC/CCP have been doing this for years in the air and on the seas. Even Iran plays "Chicken" with the USN in the Gulf. With small patrol boats made of wood or fiberglass.

Even a few weeks ago, Russian combat aircraft "downed" one of our Reaper Drones over international waters. We responded by … never … mind …

Tango0108 May 2023 10:24 p.m. PST

Germany Wants To Ban Russian Flags On Victory Day


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Russians In Latvia Must Take A Language Test To Avoid Being Expelled From The Country


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Armand

Tango0109 May 2023 9:56 p.m. PST

Attrition: Anti-Tank Mines In Ukraine


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Laser Rocket Firing Humvees Spotted In Service With Ukraine

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Armand

Tango0111 May 2023 9:43 p.m. PST

U.S. Accuses South Africa Of Secretly Sending Arms And Ammunition To Russia

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Armand

Tango0113 May 2023 10:37 p.m. PST

Germany Announces Massive 2.7 Billion Euro Military Aid Package To Ukraine

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Armand

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP14 May 2023 9:53 a.m. PST

The Germans certainly seem to be pulling their own weight to assist the Ukraine in defeating the Russians. Good job !

Tango0114 May 2023 10:38 p.m. PST

U.S. Deploys F-22s To The Borders Of Russia

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Armand

Tango0115 May 2023 10:46 p.m. PST

Russia Deploys 16 Strategic Bombers In The North Close To Finland's Border

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Pentagon Money For Ukraine Will Run Out By Summer

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Armand

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP16 May 2023 8:03 a.m. PST

Well take into account inflation … 😁

SBminisguy16 May 2023 9:23 a.m. PST

@Tango1, that spending number is obsolete, the US alone has now spent between $170 USD Billion and $200 USD Billion on Ukraine in single year, not a mere $46.6 USD Billion. That means the Ukraine War is now the most expensive war in the last 100 years except for WW2 ($340 billion).

And WW2 was over a 4-year period, so far we've spend 60% as much in single year on Ukraine -- so, in WW2 terms we've spent $$$ = to the WW2 War period of January 1942 through August 1944.

Tango0116 May 2023 4:49 p.m. PST

Thanks…. In your opinion… is it worth it or not?…

Armand

Tango0116 May 2023 9:52 p.m. PST

India tilts West as Russian ties cool

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CIA Seeks to Recruit War-Weary, High-Ranking Russians With Video Appeal

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Armand

Tango0117 May 2023 10:25 p.m. PST

European Countries Pressure Washington To Deliver Fighter Jets To Ukraine


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CIA Launches Video Campaign To Recruit Russian Spies


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HENSOLDT to supply six more TRML-4D air surveillance radars to Ukraine

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Armand

Tango0118 May 2023 10:44 p.m. PST

NATO's World War Three Plans Are Being Drawn Up

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Scholz: Fighter jets for Ukraine not German responsibility

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Armand

Something Wicked19 May 2023 12:54 a.m. PST

SBS Minisguy


"Tango1, that spending number is obsolete"


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Or not

Tango0119 May 2023 10:24 p.m. PST

Putin: West trying to break Russia up


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Under Intense Pressure From Allies, President Biden Tells G-7 Leaders The U.S. Will Support Effort To Train Ukrainian Pilots On F-16s

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Armand

Tango0120 May 2023 10:34 p.m. PST

Pope Francis Has Asked Italian Cardinal Matteo Zuppi To Carry Out A Ukraine Peace Mission

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Armand

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP21 May 2023 10:36 a.m. PST

Nice thought … but I don't think Putin will really care. Even if he frequently shows how "religious" he is.

Tango0121 May 2023 10:31 p.m. PST

He is Orthodox… not Catolic…

Dear Pope take his time to move a peace mission… he seems to be very busy…

Armand

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP22 May 2023 7:59 a.m. PST

Yes, I know that, he is Russian Orthodox, IIRC … But the Pope and Putin are both Christians. What would be the test … ? They'd both be targets for islamic terrorists. To Jihadis everyone is a target if you are not them …

dapeters22 May 2023 12:07 p.m. PST

Putin Christian, I believe it's more an act, remember he came up through the KBG.

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