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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian16 May 2022 3:52 a.m. PST

Ukrainian Special Operations Forces soldiers, in cooperation with other units of the Ukrainian Defence Forces, are destroying communication routes along the enemy's rear lines.

As a result of a successful operation in Luhansk Oblast, railway bridges captured by the Russians between the towns of Rubizhne and Sievierodonetsk have been blown up

Ukrainian Pravda: link

(Video at bottom of page)

Cuprum2 Supporting Member of TMP16 May 2022 7:02 a.m. PST

Ukrainian clownery with lies in messages loses all boundaries)))
Brave Ukrainians are again blowing up bridges in the rear of their own troops, but they lie about the fact that this bridge is in the rear of Russian troops.
Why is there no destroyed Russian train this time?

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liveuamap.com

Legion 416 May 2022 8:05 a.m. PST

So, more propaganda/misinformation … ?

Straw Plaiter16 May 2022 8:12 a.m. PST

It's the only site I have seen that says that it was behind the lines. All other sites I have read say that it was blown by the Ukrainians to stall the Russian advance. So only one clown on the Ukrainian side whereas…..

Uesugi Kenshin Supporting Member of TMP16 May 2022 8:12 a.m. PST

Cuprum…if all Ukrainian information is bogus then why haven't you won the war?

Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦!
youtu.be/HaTmjHbVuv4

nickinsomerset16 May 2022 9:02 a.m. PST

The war will be won in 3 days and the Soviets will be welcomed with open arms, how is that for clownery!!

It was done to stall the soviet advance, perhaps to force them into more river crossings! Meanwhile it is beginning to smell of the 1930s with spewtin turning on his Generals, FSB and even his GodDaughter, as Finland and now Sweden announce that they want to join NATO,

Tally Ho!

Personal logo The Virtual Armchair General Sponsoring Member of TMP16 May 2022 10:36 a.m. PST

When this damned, useless war is over with a Ukrainian victory--which might be sooner than many think--I can hardly wait for TMP's #1 Putin Fan Boy's reaction.

Mostly, it will be silence, followed by blaming the US, NATO, the Jews, Jehovah's Witnesses, and home-grown "Roosian Preverts" who, when Putler found them out, turned on him in a mutiny of Preverts.

The Mills of The Gods….

TVAG

jsmcc9116 May 2022 10:39 a.m. PST

The Russians are resorting to stealing grain, tractors and even children. The clownery is the Russian military and its leaders.

Richard Brooks Sponsoring Member of TMP16 May 2022 11:55 a.m. PST

Not taking Cuprum's side in this but if he mentions Russian losses he can be arrested for treason in Russia. Best if he keeps his mouth shut. Instead of repeating Putin's lies.

Thresher0116 May 2022 1:51 p.m. PST

Are the Ukrainians blowing the bridges, or are the retreating Russians to keep the resurgent Ukrainian Army at bay?

Of course, I suppose it could be the Ukrainians, in order to keep the Russians from redeploying their armor easily, since they are heavily dependent upon rail lines to do that.

Note – a lot of Russian tanks can only move 75 – 125 or so miles before breaking down, according to some Cold War standards, which provides a good understanding for why rail lines are so important to them. I imagine it also demonstrates why the attacking Russians have largely left Ukraine's railway lines in place, instead of attacking and destroying them during the last few months.

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian16 May 2022 2:17 p.m. PST

Not taking Cuprum's side in this but if he mentions Russian losses he can be arrested for treason in Russia. Best if he keeps his mouth shut. Instead of repeating Putin's lies.

He's safe, he says he is using VPN.

Bandolier16 May 2022 5:30 p.m. PST

I don't see any "clownery" at all.
Occupied territory is more fluid than coloured areas on a map.
Russians have captured Rubizhne and would have pushed to capture the bridge (a rail bridge still works for other traffic) to attempt to encircle Sievierodonetsk.
Ukrainians have denied it to the enemy.
We've seen how well Russians can cross rivers.
Makes perfect sense.

Legion 416 May 2022 5:42 p.m. PST

Yes, many small villages & towns have exchanged hands. Some more than once. But it seems the Ukrainians costing the Russians very high losses, regardless … And gaining some terrain.

Gus Fring16 May 2022 6:17 p.m. PST

It's like putting the trebuchets and the Unsullied in front of the trenches?

Cuprum2 Supporting Member of TMP17 May 2022 5:18 a.m. PST

I use VPN only to view sites banned in Russia. There are few of them. And even to most of those that are prohibited, I have direct access without VPN. Even to the site of the Nazi regiment "Azov" ;-)
The vast majority of Ukrainian sites are not blocked by anyone.
I don't watch official news channels (neither Russian nor Western). I watch video from the scene from unofficial persons. It's much more interesting)))

It is now impossible to announce the losses of Russian troops, since there is no exact information, except for the reports of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. And you can trust them exactly as much as you can trust the reports of the Russian Ministry of Defense. That is – seriously, nothing))) Everything will be calculated after the war.

And although this is not a simple war, Russia is still fighting with only "one hand". There is no mobilization (unlike the three waves in Ukraine), there is no destruction of bridges on the Dnieper and disabling logistics, there is no full-fledged use of all firepower. Russian troops have changed tactics and are slowly pushing through the Ukrainian defenses in Donbas, destroying defensive positions with artillery fire. Russian losses dropped by an order of magnitude. Now there is a war of attrition. And not so much in military materials as in the fortress of nerves. Who will "tolerate" whom?

And don't call me a Putin lover… I don't give a damn about Putin. But at the same time, I remain a patriot of my country and do not wish it defeat.

jsmcc9117 May 2022 6:52 a.m. PST

Cuprum, I get the patriotism and not wanting your country defeated, but do you condone the attack on a country where Russia signed an agreement giving its sovereignty with the UN? I do hope there are some patriots in Russia that will take it upon themselves to put a bullet into the coward Putin and end the senseless terroristic invasion.

Cuprum2 Supporting Member of TMP17 May 2022 9:35 a.m. PST

You know, a few years ago I wrote here that NATO's advance to Russia's borders was a big mistake. I wrote that it was a big mistake to officially and openly support the overthrow of an absolutely legally elected president in Ukraine. That supporting the Nazis in Ukraine was a big mistake. That it was also a big mistake to ignore Russia's fears from these events that took place …
And I also wrote here that the Russian army is not as strong as your media scare you, and that fear of a "Russian invasion of Europe" does not make sense. And therefore, all the above events only increase fear in Russia.
If you drive someone into a corner – wait for a retaliatory strike with all possible forces. This is the instinct of self-preservation.
Do you know how Western pressure and all-round military assistance to Ukraine is now perceived in Russia? Like a "war by proxy" of the West against Russia. Ukraine is just a Western "proxy" army…
The people will not oppose this war. Many people want general mobilization. If a coup is possible, then only among the "elites". But then it may well provoke a new civil war. Well, or the arrival of an outright dictatorship.

Personal logo The Virtual Armchair General Sponsoring Member of TMP17 May 2022 10:55 a.m. PST

"The arrival of an outright dictatorship."

I see. A complete change from the current kleptocratic-autocratic paradise enjoyed today?

When your world comes crashing down, I hope you will have something else to give your life purpose.

TVAG

jsmcc9117 May 2022 11:44 a.m. PST

By the end of this, the Russian army would not be able to defend themselves against Boy Scouts wielding Swiss Army Knives. A waste of lives and resources because of another Stalinistic wacko. Unfortunately the Russian people have been brainwashed from the initial terroristic attack believing it was liberation, but just trying to finish what they started with Holodomor.

SBminisguy17 May 2022 12:45 p.m. PST

You know, a few years ago I wrote here that NATO's advance to Russia's borders was a big mistake.

Why? NATO is a defensive alliance *that was dying.* Most nations were not meeting their defense obligations, except for the newer additions who were on the Russian border (wonder why, eh?). France, and to a lesser extent Germany, favored ending NATO and replacing it with an even less funded and serious "European Army," in order to stick a finger in Uncle Sam's eye and assert a Federal States of Europe model.

There was never any chance that NATO would initiate a conflict with Russia.

So if Putin wanted NATO to go away, he only needed to do -- nothing.

No saber rattling or threats to nuke people. No invasions of conquest against his smaller neighbors that made other countries nervous. Just sell Gas and Oil to Europe, and NATO would go away by itself.

But ohhh nooo, Putin was like an old Soviet dog -- couldn't learn new tricks. Had to just keep on being a bastard, and now look at the mess we're in.

SBminisguy17 May 2022 12:47 p.m. PST

By the end of this, the Russian army would not be able to defend themselves against Boy Scouts wielding Swiss Army Knives.

Yep…maybe 'ol Putie Poot should take a look at that vast undefended border with China, which is increasingly desperate for raw resources, oil and gas. Siberia looks like mighty easy pickings…

Cuprum2 Supporting Member of TMP18 May 2022 12:01 a.m. PST

SBminisguy
How many times has NATO been involved in wars? And in how many of them did NATO defend its borders?
Funny – defensive union)))

backstab18 May 2022 2:34 a.m. PST

Well Cuprum2 , Putin has screwed up big time. All he has managed to do is get more counties who had no intentions of joining, breaking down the gates to sign up ….

Cuprum2 Supporting Member of TMP18 May 2022 4:45 a.m. PST

At a certain point, it doesn't matter how many people are going to kill you. There are a lot of them – and that's enough. One more, one less, it doesn't matter. Just fight or die.

Legion 418 May 2022 7:20 a.m. PST

Putin & his intel assets did not read the situation on the ground in the Ukraine very well. As we see it is costing his forces big time. And possibly sooner or later he and his retinue will be removed … hopefully …

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