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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian15 May 2022 7:34 p.m. PST

Some Russian units are reported to be down to 20% of strength.

On the Popasna front, due to heavy losses and inability to act independently, units of the airborne troops of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are teaming up with representatives of Russian private military companies for further action as part of the combined units.

Ukrainian Pravda: link

soledad15 May 2022 11:50 p.m. PST

Of they are at less than 20% of their original strenght they are far beyond combat ineffective. They need to be completely reconstituted. That takes a long time if done seriously.

Adding private troopers ( most likely former VDV) is not nearly enough.

Training 2500 former conscripts is not enough. Whole units need to be rotated out and get new personnel and train seriously for a few months to be at least a little effective.

From what it looks the russians are more than screwed.

Legion 416 May 2022 8:28 a.m. PST

That was a standard practice in WWII. Taking heavily attrited units and combining them together to form a full strength/stronger unit. Were also called "composite" units, IIRC. The Germans did this often as the war progressed.

The Russians according to UK intel says they have lost about 30% of their forces. Putin has painted himself into corner he can't get out of.

ROUWetPatchBehindTheSofa16 May 2022 8:39 a.m. PST

There army gives every appearance of coming apart at the seems. Todays UK Defence Intelligence briefing stated that they thought Russia may have lost as a third of the forces they committed in February. Cobbling together units might work if you have committed troops and little choice. The Russian army continually appear to lack commitment and I suspect have lost any choice having being foisted with fantastical operational goals and timetable by you-know-who.

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soledad16 May 2022 11:52 a.m. PST

@Legion 4. Yes the German Kampfgruppen. Ze Germans were very good at it. Not so much basically anyone else (maybe the finns). Others could also amalgate units but they were not so effective compared to ze Germans. Better than nothing but not compared to regular units.

They cannot even get regular units to perform even sub standard. That thrown together rabble and expect anything is retarded.

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