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Wealdmaster12 May 2022 8:22 p.m. PST

Looking into how to accurately represent the countryside look of France in this time. Many articles on the English use of the 3 field system with its strips of land. Was this used in France too? Also, looking for any books that might have photos or discussions on this. I am wondering about "roads" or just tracks as well as the layout of villages too. I think woodlands were heavily managed.

Alea Jacta Est Miniatures13 May 2022 2:34 a.m. PST

The best sources are the Très Riches heures du duc de Berry.

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Swampster13 May 2022 2:54 a.m. PST

This PDF link won't answer all your questions, but if nothing else there is a (rather idealised) picture of French fields showing the system well enough.

The article goes from right at the end of the HYW but the system had not changed beforehand.

Note the comments on enclosures. Fields enclosed with hedges and/or walls were really restricted to Normandy and Provence*. The hedge at Poitiers was a vineyard boundary. Fields were open – as they still are in most of France. I _think_ that woodland was often bounded as well, especially if it was used for hunting. Parkland might also be walled but I don't know if this was a feature of any HYW battles – it certainly was in the 16th century.

Note also the general split north and south.


*I have played many games where a southern English hedgerow system has been transplanted to elsewhere in continental Europe.

hornblaeser13 May 2022 8:24 a.m. PST

Thanks Swampster. That was a very interesting read on agriculture and hedges. Plus a interesting history of agriculture in France. I see that the professor has a lot o other interesting powerpoints, so i am very grateful.

Wealdmaster13 May 2022 10:21 a.m. PST

Great sources. Thanks for this. I suspected that there would be no or very limited hedges.

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