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Gallocelt12 May 2022 12:33 p.m. PST

I have finished my 17th Century campaign map of the Rheinland. I said I would provide a photo of the finished product. Here it is with some of my War of the Spanish Succession markers. It is a hex map and the hexes are the same size as one would find on an old Avalon Hill board game map.


So for all those TYW campaigners out there, what scale would you like to see on a map that you would use for gaming? Some like each hex to represent about 15 miles. My hexes are about 4 miles for my Rheinland map. Basically one mile is about 4 mm. So what scale do you think would best serve the war game campaigner's needs?



AnselmFranz12 May 2022 10:10 p.m. PST

I think your scale is quite good, this way you simulate even smaller detachments and encampings

Marcus Maximus13 May 2022 1:25 a.m. PST

Beautiful map. Is that the whole map @gallocelt ?

Gallocelt13 May 2022 6:15 a.m. PST

Hello AnselmFranz and Marcus Maximus, thanks for the compliments. It's not the whole map, just a detail. The whole map extends from just north of Cologne or Koln and to the south into Switzerland. The map does not include towns or cities that came into being later than about 1715. If I found a town on an old map but couldn't find it on another from the same period, I didn't include it (many of these towns had populations less than 500.) I tried to use the spellings that were common at the time which might be different from modern spellings. I did not use any border lines (like I did in my Spanish Netherlands map) since in the mid 1600s, borders were quite complicated and changeable (eg. a map of the Lower Palatinate at that time was a real patchwork!) I could use transparent overlays for borders for TYW, War of Devolution, Franco-Dutch War, War of the Reunions, LOA and WSS.

As far as scale, I'm glad we're thinking alike, AnselmFranz. I was just wondering about if for the TYW, it would be best to have a grand map of the whole region or if it would be better to have detailed theatre maps for the areas of Germany that experienced frequent conflicts.



DOUGKL15 May 2022 11:27 a.m. PST

Wonderful work I think the idea of detailed theater maps is the way to go.

Gallocelt16 May 2022 9:41 p.m. PST


I'm thinking a very useful sector map for TYW would be central Germany, Saxony and perhaps some of Bavaria would be necessary for Magdeburg, Breitenfeld, Alte Veste and Lutzen.



Blackhorse MP13 Jul 2022 2:10 a.m. PST

Beautiful map. Is that the whole map @gallocelt ?

Gotta ask…why the @ symbol? This is TMP, not Twitter. Not being a member of the Twitterati I don't get it. Someone help me out here.

Wealdmaster05 Aug 2022 2:01 p.m. PST

Is this map available somewhere or maybe to purchase? Looks amazing!

Gallocelt07 Aug 2022 6:37 a.m. PST

Hello Blockhouse MP,

A bit late, but I thought I'd answer you. @Gallocelt is shorthand for "this comment is directed at Gallocelt". It is used by some here at TMP. I have no idea if it's used on Twitter. I'm not much for social media platforms like Twitter, TicTok or even Facebook. I prefer forums like TMP.



Gallocelt07 Aug 2022 7:06 a.m. PST

Hi Wealdmaster,

As yet, the map is not a product. Sadly, I can't figure out a way of making it available without someone else trying to profit financially from my work. Two dimensional images are too easy for someone to scan, copy and sell as their own.

I'm thinking of making more maps for the 17th Century including central Germany, Spain and Northern Italy. So far I've made maps for The Spanish Netherlands (mostly modern day Belgium), and the Rheinland. I'm thinking the scale is a bit large and I'm considering using a scale where each hex is about 10 miles.



Wealdmaster07 Aug 2022 11:36 a.m. PST

Well, I understand but do keep me/us posted if ever you are willing to share or sell this map as I've been looking for something for ages for the 30 years war.

kalyl12324 Sep 2023 6:17 p.m. PST

Consider the historical events and distances you want to represent accurately in your game. If your aim is to recreate specific battles or campaigns with precision, a smaller scale (where each hex represents fewer miles) might be more suitable.
geometry dash

Gallocelt25 Sep 2023 9:52 a.m. PST

Hi kaly123,

My posts were pretty dated, being from August of last year. It's nice to see there is still some interest in the topic.
Many months ago, I worked on the map of northern Germany (haven't gotten to southern Germany yet. Currently, the map includes as far north as Eggebeck (I use old spellings) and as far south as Muhlhausen. On the east-west I've gone from about Lochem in the "United Provinces" to Frankfurt (an der Oder). This map is about 24.5" wide. The idea of this map is to provide a large theatre of war for campaigns in the seventeenth century. Smaller, more detailed maps can be used for specific areas. For instance, my map of the Upper and Middle Rheinland I made with the "War of the Palatinate" (League of Augsburg) in mind.



fantasticlegions24 Oct 2023 1:09 p.m. PST

Gallocelt: Are you open to selling copies of this map? Feel free to contact me on my webpage:


Gallocelt01 Nov 2023 4:48 p.m. PST

Hello fantasticlegions,

The map of Germany is still in the works. I've almost finished northern Germany but have only just begun the southern half. Not sure if I will try to sell the map, it would be easy for someone else to copy it and sell it for their own profit. I could do a "poor man's copyright" but I don't have much faith that would stop anyone.



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