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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian06 May 2022 9:47 p.m. PST

The first ever appearance of a US-supplied Switchblade 300 loitering munition (Kamikaze Drone) in combat in Ukraine – these remains were recovered by Russian forces in #Kharkiv Oblast.

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Legion 407 May 2022 7:22 a.m. PST

That is nothing new, showing the enemy's weapons you had found on the battlefield or captured. More Russian saber rattling for local consumption. They did similar with the Javelins, etc. weapons they captured. They have to try to find anything they can to show they are "winning" …

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian07 May 2022 7:34 a.m. PST

This one had already been 'used'. grin

Legion 407 May 2022 7:54 a.m. PST

Sure, you collect up bits & pieces of even expended enemy weapons. That is just part of good intel gathering SOP.

E.g. The PRC was paying the Taliban for any expended or otherwise US weapons.

The same thing happened in the war in the former Yugoslavia. The PRC was helping the Serbs/Yugo forces shoot down an F-117.* link

From the link …

Some pieces of the F-117's wreckage are preserved at the Serbian Museum of Aviation in Belgrade.

This incident remains classified and only some details were revealed.

Get the parts, see what makes them "tick", etc. maybe reverse engineer them, etc. ?

*As a sidebar after an F-117 was shot down. A PRC building used by them in Serbia, IIRC, was "Accidently" blown up. By an airstrike of some sort. The CIA said it was a "mistake" … "Old maps" or something like that …

"Mess with bull … you get the horns." …

Thresher0107 May 2022 12:51 p.m. PST

Look for reverse-engineered ones soon, like they did with our Aim-9 missiles.

Personal logo David Manley Supporting Member of TMP07 May 2022 3:36 p.m. PST

The bombing of the Chinese Embassy didn't have anything to do with the F117.

Legion 407 May 2022 4:30 p.m. PST

That is not what I had heard David … but why do you think it was bombed ?

If you know why not enlighten us all ? ☀

Or do you just want to leave us all hanging ? noose

Personal logo David Manley Supporting Member of TMP07 May 2022 10:49 p.m. PST

Choosing my words carefully, I worked with someone who was involved and we discussed the event in some detail. Those details are not in the public domain. I'm sure you'll understand, given your career history, there are many things that get brought up here that wargames would love to know about, or that everyone "knows" what happened, but where classification means the course of real events was somewhat different

Personal logo David Manley Supporting Member of TMP07 May 2022 10:58 p.m. PST

Anyway, your post is the first time I've seen a suggestion that China helped the Serbs shoot down the F117 (one would think if anyone did it would have been the Russians). It's well-known that the Chinese obtained parts of the wreckage – and a number of other NATO weapons that were recovered, but otherwise…

Is there any evidence to support PRC support in the shoot down itself, or is it just speculation?

Legion 408 May 2022 8:41 a.m. PST

Well you convinced me David. You sort of had an inside track. And yes, I understand completely. You sold me on the topic !

It's well-known that the Chinese obtained parts of the wreckage and a number of other NATO weapons that were recovered, but otherwise…
Yes that seems to be SOP, for the PRC & Russia too, in some cases.

Is there any evidence to support PRC support in the shoot down itself, or is it just speculation?
I had heard it as both evidence and speculation. Which I took it as was a true event. With the PRC getting some wreckage. etc. I was wrong, as you do know more about this than I or many others do.

So thanks for the intel update. And yes, I at one time had a Top Secret Clearance. But as you know I only was told what was "need to know" … And TS rating is not that high …

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