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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian06 May 2022 7:01 p.m. PST

Online misinformation about the armies of Poland and Finland has circulated online amid Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

Social media users have falsely suggested that both European Union member states are preparing to enter the war or engage in military conflict…

Euronews: link

torokchar Supporting Member of TMP06 May 2022 8:01 p.m. PST

What Euronews is CNN!! you poor guys.

bandit86 Supporting Member of TMP06 May 2022 8:54 p.m. PST

Sound Like FOX news
But I am sure that they have there armies on alert

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian06 May 2022 10:01 p.m. PST

A Ukrainian politician from a pro-Russian party continues to spread insinuations against Poland, while attacking president V. Zelensky. Ilya Kiva accuses Kiev and Warsaw of preparing for the annexation of western Ukraine by Poland. Kiva formulated his accusations in Telegram. He accused the authorities in Kiev of preparing for the creation of a new Ukrainian state with its capital in Lviv and then preparing a referendum to incorporate it into Poland…

Poland: link

Legion 407 May 2022 7:32 a.m. PST

Not the first time, the news media is wrong. Or don't know what they are talking about. "Never let the truth get in the way of a good story." …

Sound Like FOX news
Won't get into an argument over which news channel is "better", etc. …

But I saw "The View" is up for 9 Awards. 😱 That just shows what some people think is "news". 🤯🤯 Terrifying … IMO …😨

emckinney07 May 2022 9:46 a.m. PST

Why are people attacking the media? Euronews is reporting that these SOCIAL MEDIA stories are FALSE and that the supposed BBC video is a fake. Meanwhile, the reports that Kiva is saying these things appear perfectly accurate. That doesn't mean that Kiva is right.

Arjuna07 May 2022 10:31 a.m. PST

As an funny aside, Polish Ex-Foreign-Minister Radosław Sikorski claimed in 2014 in an Interview with Politico that Putin offered to divide Ukraine with Poland in 2008.
Subsequently Sikorski retracted his statement. First, he declared it unauthorized and "overinterpreted"; then he admitted that his memory had "failed".

Make of it what you will.

Polish ex-minister quoted saying Putin offered to divide Ukraine with Poland On Reuters

Putin does think about partitioning Ukraine -On Politico

There is media, there are lies, but worst of all, there are politicians.

Thresher0107 May 2022 12:57 p.m. PST

Why are people attacking the media?

Because many/most have been shown to be nothing more than propaganda outlets for their political allies, pushing false narratives for their causes, and NOT reporting real news and scandals far greater than those of Watergate, which looks like a 10 year old's minor misdemeanor by comparison.

The resulting partisan coverage and non-reporting helped swing the balance in the last election.

emckinney07 May 2022 3:12 p.m. PST

So, it makes sense to attack "the media" for accurately reporting a story?

Go back and read the responses. They literally don't make sense.

Legion 408 May 2022 8:57 a.m. PST

Well, it seems in many cases the media is biased, tries to make the "story" to fit their agenda, narrative, etc. Plus, we can't take opinion vs. actual news in many situations, as well.

dapeters09 May 2022 12:37 p.m. PST

"Well, it seems in many cases the media is biased, tries to make the "story" to fit their agenda, narrative, etc. Plus, we can't take opinion vs. actual news in many situations, as well."

No this is wrong, most News-Media, sure lean in varying degrees. But right or left news media will not change the facts themselves and even the ones that do tend to do it in the opinion or commentary areas. Yes some of the News media that gets posted here, does tend to be in that small group that likes play with facts but saying all is fairly simple minded.

Legion 410 May 2022 8:41 a.m. PST

Yes, different media leans one way or another. However, I've seen them play with facts, only say what fits their narrative, etc. E.g. in the summer of 2020 where over 500 riots occurred in the USA. Some media said most of the protests are peaceful. Yet the scene behind them was a raging inferno, LEO cars destroyed, city blocks looted & burning, etc., etc. Or some of our gov't leaders calling these riots "A myth", etc., etc., …

Opinion is one thing … but blatantly dismissing what we all seen … and call it something else. How stupid do they think we are ?

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Albeit we have gone waaay OT …

dapeters10 May 2022 11:58 a.m. PST

Sweeping generalizations rarely get us anywhere. But it does serve a narrative.

Legion 410 May 2022 4:02 p.m. PST

Generally true but not in all cases … However I probably watch too much cable news.

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