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DaleWill Supporting Member of TMP03 May 2022 9:55 a.m. PST

Purchased the rules, etc. and really like what I've read. Now to the inevitable question, when will we have fleet and/or period listings? I'm looking for the Pre-Dreadnoughts era as in the Battle of Crete, 1898, scenario.


daveshoe03 May 2022 12:59 p.m. PST

It looks like there is a scenario book on Wargame Vault:

What are the rules like?

Do they include any ship information?

DaleWill Supporting Member of TMP04 May 2022 1:09 p.m. PST


The rules look good. There is no ship information, outside of examples, included with the rules. The scenario book has 5 battles from late 1800's to WW2 included. All ship forms for those battles are included and that's it for ship data. Need period/nation ship forms before you can do much else with them.

Admiral Rich Supporting Member of TMP08 May 2022 4:05 a.m. PST

Dave & Dale:

Thanks for the questions!

AOTF SCENARIOS VOLUME I includes 169 pre-formatted, ready-to-print ship logs for the 5 scenarios included; The Battle of Tsushima (1905 historical), The Battle of Crete (1898 fictional), The Battle of Dogger Bank (1915 historical), The Battle of the Komandorski Islands (1943 both historical and fictional), and The Battle of Jutland-Run to the South (1916 historical).

But at HURRICON 2022 last month we announced three new titles which will provide ship logs for all navies.

The AOTF Naval Annual Series is an obvious play on Brassey's & Jane's but with actual ship logs for playing AOTF. There will be three volumes: 1885-1906, 1907-1921, 1922-1944. Covers will be color-coded similar to Conway's (blue, green and red respectively).

The bulk of each volume will be comprised of ship logs for each country (alphabetic by country, then ship type, then completion date) preceded by summary pages for each country. Each volume contains a single ship log for each class (using the data of a representative ship of the class for the time period). For ship classes spanning volumes (i.e. the WW1-era battleships & cruisers like HOOD, CAVOUR, PENNSYLVANIA, etc. that survived into WW2), updated versions will appear in the subsequent volume.

The first two volumes will be limited to battleships, battlecruisers, armored cruisers and light cruisers but the third volume will also contain ship logs for destroyers. Each volume will also contain several technical articles featuring particular subjects (advancements in guns, armor, fire control, propellants, machinery & propulsion, etc.) that were "hot topics" for the period.

Planned release date for the first volume (1885 to 1906) is June 25 with the other two following in August and October and all will be available on Wargame Vault.

DaleWill Supporting Member of TMP09 May 2022 9:42 a.m. PST

Admiral Rich:

Excellent news. I'll keep an eye out over at Wargame Vault.


Admiral Rich Supporting Member of TMP09 May 2022 2:07 p.m. PST


I updated the AOTF Intro Page so while you're waiting, you can download a draft sample of the AOTF Naval Annual 1885-1906 which includes ship logs for Argentina and Austria-Hungary. While these ship logs are still draft versions, they can be printed and used with AOTF…for free! The link is at:

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