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Trockledockle30 Apr 2022 1:52 a.m. PST

I've just noted that 2022 is the 50th anniversary of the publishing of this book. It is regarded very fondly by many people and is pretty comprehensive although our knowledge has moved on and it does have errors. I was wondering if a compilation of additions/ corrections on this forum would be useful. I'm happy to start a list but my information is limited to books in English (Ospreys, Summerfield etc) and the World Wide Web so any contributions especially from German experts would be much appreciated.

A quick look has picked up the following:

Cavalry flags are incorrect except for the Lithuanian Dragoons

Cuirassier shabraques were in the facing colour (except for the Brandenburg Regiment)

The information on the later hussar regiments refers to the regulation uniform but this was probably not worn at Waterloo. These regiments were formed from detachments of National cavalry and other hussar regiments and it is likely that each squadron within a regiment wore the uniform of the regiment it came from.

There is very little on the late uhlan regiments. The comment on the hussars als applies.

There is no mention of the Russo-German Legion 2nd Regiment of Hussars

Any thoughts?

Oliver Schmidt30 Apr 2022 2:10 a.m. PST

The Osprey books on the Prussian army by Peter Hofschröer are quite good, as they are based on reliable German sources.

The best books on the Prussian army you can currently get, are Stanislav Lyulin's two volumes on Prussian cavalry (in Russian, but they include complete English translations). They cover the period 1808 to 1840, and only describe the regulation uniforms, but they have plenty of Photos of orginal uniforms and contemporary paintings and drawings.

14Bore30 Apr 2022 4:15 a.m. PST

My copy got down to a stack of pages but put it somewhere and haven't found it in years, luckily decades ago photocopied the entire book (all my own use)and have that decades old version in a notebook.
I would get a new version in a heartbeat
I made my Prussian Army as per PH, numbers and all

Dave Jackson Supporting Member of TMP30 Apr 2022 5:55 a.m. PST

Had to get my copy rebound about 10 yrs ago after years of use

arthur181530 Apr 2022 2:36 p.m. PST

My copy also shows significant wear and tear, pages coming loose &c. I wish more books were produced in that style, rather than with 'artistic' uniform plates. The plates in Helion's recent The War of the Two Brothers about the Portuguese Civil War are in a similar style and in colour!

Garryowen Supporting Member of TMP30 Apr 2022 3:38 p.m. PST

I have read mine multiple times and used it years ago for research. Luckily it is still in one piece. "Perfect Glue" was not so perfect in those days.

Tom

von Winterfeldt01 May 2022 2:58 a.m. PST

a lot of nostaligia, but nobody even mentions the works by Dr. Summerfield.
Nash did not mention the artillery train, which did not have light blue collars.

Trockledockle01 May 2022 3:15 a.m. PST

I think that the books by Summerfield are excellent with a lot of detailed content. However, I bought mine as print on demand a few years ago and the reproduction quality is poor- at the bottom of the page it fades away and is like a bad photocopy. All the illustrations, other than the covers, are black and white while the extracts I have seen online are in colour. I'm very happy with the content but disappointed with the printing. I'm sure that this is not Dr Summerfield's responsibility.

BillyNM08 May 2022 10:31 a.m. PST

I buy my Summerfield books from Ken Trotman and they're all beautifully produced.

Trockledockle08 May 2022 2:05 p.m. PST

I bought mine from Caliver.

Trockledockle10 May 2022 9:10 a.m. PST

I've summarised the changes for the regular cavalry in chapter 5 and will post them separately by chapter.

4th Cuirassier01 Jun 2022 1:43 a.m. PST

Is this book still worth having? There's one on AbeBooks for twenty quid.

Trockledockle01 Jun 2022 9:05 a.m. PST

For older gamers, it's very highly regarded and has a nostalgic appeal, particularly the drawings. It is very comprehensive for a single volume and for 1972 set the standard. A very rough guess is that it is 95% correct but there are errors and omissions and new information from German sources has become available in English. I'm working on these with the kind help of people on this forum. As much as I like it, £20.00 GBP may be a bit high if it is paperback as those will fall apart. The hardbacks are much more robust. On the other hand, if you bought the 5 Ospreys which cover the same areas, you would pay about £40.00 GBP

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