"Review of OOB vs Losses" Topic
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 Saber6   | 19 Apr 2022 7:15 a.m. PST |
looking here: link Gives a 'ball park' of the committed forces. Looks to be about 65 Battalion Tactical Groups Given that the 'typical' Battalion Tactical Group seems to be 1 Tank Company and 2-4 MR Company. Just how many of these have been 'abused' if you start comparing reported loses vs 10 tanks per company. Please cite sources  |
 Editor in Chief Bill  | 19 Apr 2022 9:41 a.m. PST |
There are now 76 Russian battalion tactical groups in the Donbas region of Ukraine and in the country's southeast. About 11 of those were added over the last several days, a senior Defense Department official said today. And another 22 being resupplied/refitted. Plus 12 or so at Mariupol, and others in southern Ukraine. US Department of Defense: link |
| SBminisguy | 19 Apr 2022 12:10 p.m. PST |
The Russian military is pretty much 'all in' against a much weaker but more determined neighbor. This feels a lot like when Mussolini broke the Italian army on the mountains of Greece in 1940. |
| Saber6 | 19 Apr 2022 12:14 p.m. PST |
Looking at the 'estimate' of 400+ tank losses (killed/abandoned/broken) that were not recovered that is 40 BTG or so worth of tanks and a portion of their crews. or 10+ Battalions of tanks or more than a Soviet era Tank Division. |
| Thresher01 | 19 Apr 2022 1:16 p.m. PST |
And, are there only 10 tanks or IFVs/APCs per company, or 13 and 12, respectively? |
| Garand | 19 Apr 2022 1:19 p.m. PST |
Looking at the 'estimate' of 400+ tank losses (killed/abandoned/broken) that were not recovered that is 40 BTG or so worth of tanks and a portion of their crews.or 10+ Battalions of tanks or more than a Soviet era Tank Division. IIRC considering they started this conflict with around 120 BG, & now have committed a little over 80, this sounds about right in terms of tank losses, plus or minus (probably plus). Damon. |
| Saber6 | 19 Apr 2022 1:45 p.m. PST |
Thresher: Basing it on the old Soviet model of 10 per company. IIRC there were 12 in Tank Companies of MRR Tankk battalions. Just using it as a measuring stick. |
| Saber6 | 19 Apr 2022 1:49 p.m. PST |
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 Legion 4 | 19 Apr 2022 1:52 p.m. PST |
Yes, a Soviet Tank Co. was 1 Cmd Tank + 3 Plts of 3 tanks = 10. Their Tank Cos were smaller than NATO's … Good link Saber 6, I posted it before IIRC. The BTG has as many FA Btys. as it does Inf Cos. – 3 of each. With only one Tank Co. However, a good Cdr with well trained & motivated troops can make this effective. But seems the Russians don't have that. |
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