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18 Apr 2022 8:45 a.m. PST
by Editor in Chief Bill

  • Changed title from "Ty Seidule On Exposing Rober E. Lee, Lost Cause Myths..." to "Ty Seidule On Exposing Robert E. Lee, Lost Cause Myths..."

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35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP22 May 2022 12:15 p.m. PST

Actually this may put the Waffen SS in the grave as well.

Subject: Murdered Warriors: The Chasselay Massacre, June 1940 | The National WWII Museum | New Orleans


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Au pas de Charge22 May 2022 12:49 p.m. PST

Did I ever say Waffen SS? You have the quote above. If you assumed, you assume incorrectly.

We are on a wargaming board. I have my military thinking cap on.

In any case, i made my assumption about Waffen SS v Confederate soldiers treatment of Blacks back on April 20th, and you didn't correct it; so blame yourself.

Oh well, I suppose no one really knows what you mean.


Indians in no way equate to Blacks of African decent.

To use your approach, did I say they were?

Still non white and serving in the Waffen SS. Yes? It's not like the SS was any harsher than the Confederacy. You made it sound like the Confederacy was on the brink of arming black slaves and, again, I am assuming you meant the SS would never conscience such a thing.

I furnished the Nazi view of African blacks from the Holocaust encyclopedia last link. Read it.

Yeah, the Nazis were racists too so they adopted Jim Crow laws. I never said the Nazis werent dangerous racists and killers of the first magnitude. I said, if I were black, I'd take my chances with the SS rather than the Confederate soldiers.

I also think youre worrying about my comment too much. It was made somewhat in jest. In fact, it was made because I dont see the gap that you apparently do between confederate soldiers and Waffen SS behavior towards blacks but given the choice, I think there'd be a better chance for a black dude with the SS.


Yes I am tired of the revisionist trying to saddle the white race, with white shared guilt for slavery and the moniker of white Privilege. We do not practice slavery today. We did not own slaves, nor did our fathers and mothers. Many of us never owned slaves in past generations. Many of us lost forefathers fighting for the Union. What price on their deaths? The current generation of blacks were never slaves. That time has passed.

Perhaps now that you've cleared this up, the white man will finally get a break?

Did not know that a small contingency of Indians, hated the British so much, that they would fight as Waffen SS troopers. That is actually sad.

I hope you can stand the shock but I have it on good authority that quite a few Indians hated the British.

35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP22 May 2022 1:48 p.m. PST

Did you read the last link. Shatters the Waffen SS and even the Wehrmacht.

"We are on a wargaming board. I have my military thinking cap on.

In any case, i made my assumption about Waffen SS v Confederate soldiers treatment of Blacks back on April 20th, and you didn't correct it; so blame yourself.

Oh well, I suppose no one really knows what you mean."

What??? This whole subject has nothing to do with wargammers or wargames. 😂
I wish these subjects never appeared in TMP! The only country that gets attacked historically and currently almost as much as the US in TMP, is the UK. (Russia aside since Ukraine war, but the Russians brought that on themselves).
I am supposed to correct and Interpret what you write or mean? 😂
No, I will let others try and do that.

FYI, I said I did not believe that Indians would have hated the British enough to fight for the Waffen SS and The Nazis, not that I did not believe they did not hate the British.

Tortorella Supporting Member of TMP22 May 2022 2:19 p.m. PST

I suggest we end this thread. Remember the book? I think its worth a read – its one man's experience with all of these things.

Au pas de Charge22 May 2022 2:30 p.m. PST

Did you read the last link. Shatters the Waffen SS and even the Wehrmacht.

I did read it. What I would like to ask is what point are you tying to make? Who the hell do you think is defending the SS?

I would ask if reading comprehension were an issue but this answers that:

I say:

We are on a wargaming board. I have my military thinking cap on.

And then you say:

What??? This whole subject has nothing to do with wargammers or wargames. 😂

Does a book about General Lee involve wargaming and military history?

35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP22 May 2022 2:31 p.m. PST

I have said before I am willing as long as others are willing. I said before it has become boring.

35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP22 May 2022 2:35 p.m. PST

Again, this time to au pas and one other, if you all are willing to stop the personal attacks and challenges, I am willing to stop right here. But I will continue if more challenges come.

I will even let the last entry pass without a reply.

We will see what happens Tort.

Au pas de Charge22 May 2022 2:46 p.m. PST

Again, this time to au pas and one other, if you all are willing to stop the personal attacks and challenges, I am willing to stop right here. But I will continue if more challenges come.

We will see what happens Tort.

Personal attacks? Is that what you call it when you make a statement and then the answer bothers you so much you come back to it in a month and make it worse for yourself?

I mean, I am trying to be charitable here but if you keep pushing…

Or maybe this gem by you about me

Au Pas, Do you even read what you write?

Let me guess, I'm misquoting you? Does that qualify as a personal attack?

What about this accusation:

I am glad you finally admitted that you are on the left. Was that so hard? I have admitted my viewpoint before. I am at least proud of mine.

Care to explain this comment by yourself or is it another case of "Hit and run"?

And what challenge? You brought this SS/Confederate thing back up after almost a month. This is preposterous.

I dont really care what your stance is on white supremacy all I ask is that you give examples that support your argument instead of those on-their-face inaccurate articles and that Mickey Mouse conspiracy website.

Can you supply that?

35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP22 May 2022 3:21 p.m. PST

Tort that's 2 I hope you are counting. But again I will refrain from responding.

Blutarski22 May 2022 4:52 p.m. PST

This guy reminds me of the rhetorical tripe I used to read in "Evergreen" and the "Avatar" back in the "politically psychedelic 60's".

Re "Avatar" ….. Does anyone here remember Mel Lyman and his commune of social revolutionaries up on Fort Hill in Roxbury (Boston)? Right on' Man! Viva Che!

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GamesPoet Supporting Member of TMP23 May 2022 3:25 a.m. PST

Not sure what is worse, stream of consciousness drive bys that look like fishing expeditions, or stream of consciouseness what-about-isms because guilt over the past and confusion is being felt instead of acceptance of truth. Maybe its horses for courses, although even my stream of consciousness can get me into trouble … lol. Regardless, the comparison above seems off base.

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