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Arjuna15 Apr 2022 7:15 p.m. PST
John Armatys15 Apr 2022 10:58 p.m. PST

Interesting – Thanks for posting it!

rustymusket Supporting Member of TMP16 Apr 2022 3:38 a.m. PST

Interesting. Thanks, also. I did not know how that worked.

Stryderg16 Apr 2022 7:24 a.m. PST

I was expecting a discussion of how to defeat another person's use of statistics in verbal arguments. This was a much better read, though!
I always thought it's purpose was to cause an early detonation or deflect the impact angle so the jet would strike at an angle. Guess I was wrong.

Oberlindes Sol LIC Supporting Member of TMP16 Apr 2022 8:27 a.m. PST

That was great. Thanks!

Arjuna16 Apr 2022 8:44 a.m. PST

I especially like the homemade designs in the last chapter.
Driving Zoo Cages.
:-)

Black Bull17 Apr 2022 12:09 a.m. PST

Can't see the chain armour crushing the warhead,surely it would just get punched aside

Arjuna17 Apr 2022 2:38 a.m. PST

On the timescale and velocities we're talking about tensile strength and shape is almost irrelevant compared with mass and inertia.
It's more like colliding fluids at high speed, everything will be deformed.
In this case, the force vectors are to the disadvantage of the RPG.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP17 Apr 2022 8:57 a.m. PST

Arjuna +1

the chain armour crushing the warhead,surely it would just get punched aside
The IDF's Merkava has/had such a thing on the rear of the turret and elsewhere. Just for protection from RPGs. link

We talked about something like this on a threat here. I posted – Based on the Vietnam Vets, AARs, etc. we'd sandbag the deck in the troop compartment. To give a modicum of protection from mines/IEDs-booby traps, etc. We'd ride on top in many cases, as if you are on the inside and hit a mine, etc. you may be a KIA/WIA. We were told that if need be stay on top until we take effective fires.

The trim vane in front would be opened like if you are going to swim the M113. And sandbags stacked on it and part of the front hull.

Sandbags would be placed around the troop hatch on the top deck too.

Could they protect against RPGs/B40s ? Probably/Maybe … better than nothing.

The best protection vs RPGs/B40s was a technique also learned from Vietnam. When the M113 was stopped for any considerable length of time. E.g. in a Night Defensive Position[NDP]/any defensive positions, long halts, etc.

Is to hang chain link fence on pickets, etc. 10-15 Ft. in front of the APC in about a 180. More or less. As we know RPGs' HEAT Rds have a probe on the tip of the warhead. When the tip hits something solid, the probe detonates the HEAT warhead.

The probe must pretty much hit "dead on", as sloped armor could cause the probe not to detonate. And the chain link fence if the probe hits the metal, it may detonate. That is why there is a 10-15 ft. standoff zone between the fence and APC.

The RPG is not moving fast enough to break thru the fence wire. It may just get hung up in the wire and not detonate. This is the precursor/concept of slat/"Turkey Cage armor".

However, the article pretty much says otherwise … 😣

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