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Tango0110 Apr 2022 9:02 p.m. PST

"‘One coward may lose a battle, one battle may lose a war, and one war may lose a country.' This was Rear-Admiral and Conservative MP Tufton Beamish speaking to the House of Commons in 1930, giving voice to an idea that must be as old as war itself. Caring only for his own safety, blowing cover, attracting fire, the coward can be more dangerous to his own side than a brave enemy. Even when he doesn't run, the coward can sow panic simply by the way he looks – changing colour, as Homer observed in the Iliad, unable to sit still, his teeth chattering. Cowards are also known for soiling themselves…"


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bandit86 Supporting Member of TMP11 Apr 2022 8:42 p.m. PST

There are no coward just those who are not as brave

Tango0112 Apr 2022 3:32 p.m. PST

(smile)

Armand

Personal logo Mserafin Supporting Member of TMP12 Apr 2022 3:37 p.m. PST

"Just because they give you the Medal of Honor doesn't mean you didn't $*#! your pants"

My friend's dad, who earned the CMH in Italy in 1944.

Tango0113 Apr 2022 3:25 p.m. PST

Ha!…


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arthur181514 Apr 2022 10:39 a.m. PST

I have always believed bravery to be, not the absence of fear, but continuing to do one's duty/what needs to be done &c. despite being afraid; cowardice to be giving in to one's fear and not doing what one ought to do.

I used to give the following example to my pupils: if a cuddly kitten were to enter the room and frighten one of you, who happened to have a phobia about felines, it would not be brave of me to pick it up and carry it outside because I love cats; but if a large, hairy bird-eating spider from the rain forest were to enter the room, it would be brave of me to pick it up because I hate spiders.

Puster Sponsoring Member of TMP15 Apr 2022 2:46 a.m. PST

The man with chattering teeth, soiling himself, who stays around to do his duty is more brave then the one who knows no fear.

Still, he probably would do more good for the cause being somewhere else.

Tango0115 Apr 2022 3:30 p.m. PST

Agree!


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Wolfhag17 Apr 2022 9:32 a.m. PST

Back someone into a corner and they have nothing else to lose they may react as violently as they need to in order to survive.

We were taught and drilled to assault into a close range ambush. It wasn't because we were brave or not, it was logically the best way to survive. If you ran away you might trip a mine or go into another ambush.

For me the bravest guys on the battlefield are the Corpsman and Medics. I could not do what they do and historically there are quite a few that were conscientious objectors which is different than a draft dodger or a coward.

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