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enfant perdus04 Apr 2022 7:17 a.m. PST

The other week there was some incredulity when Russian/Russian aligned troops were spotted with Mosin-Nagant rifles. Surely this indicated the dire situation of the Russian Army! Not so much, as Mark Felton breaks down the wide variety of "ancient" weapons used by both sides; spoiler? It's mostly Ukrainian 2nd and 3rd line and paramilitary, as well as pro-Russian separatists.

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Per my post title, the part that amazed me was that the Ukrainian Army officially adopted the Maxim in 2016, which makes more sense when you understand they had 35,000 in storage.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP04 Apr 2022 7:54 a.m. PST

If it works…

I saw something in the news today about Russian conscripts being given Mosin-Nagants.

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP04 Apr 2022 8:58 a.m. PST

As Hilaire Belloc said

"No matter what happens, we have got
The Maxim gun – and they have not"

(A Modern Traveller)

DeRuyter04 Apr 2022 9:40 a.m. PST

Mark Felton's videos are always well done.

Cuprum2 Supporting Member of TMP04 Apr 2022 9:49 a.m. PST

Mosin sniper rifles are given to conscripts of the Donetsk People's Republic. These are the second-line troops that protect the rear of the DPR army.

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The Ukrainian army uses Maxim machine guns in stationary positions and to arm military vehicles.

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Grelber04 Apr 2022 10:49 a.m. PST

Nations frequently retain older weapons, perhaps just in case.
In 2004, Nepal sold off their stock of Martini-Henry rifles which first entered British service in 1871.
A Greek inventory of artillery for WWII included artillery they bought back in the 1870s. They also had 1870 era Gras black powder rifles in stock.
In the 1950s, the United States still had a few Gatling guns in storage. One was adapted to use an electric motor instead of a crank, leading to the development of modern multi-barreled guns.
Really like all the photos!

Grelber

Tgerritsen Supporting Member of TMP04 Apr 2022 3:03 p.m. PST

A bullet is a bullet (yeah, I know, a .50 and a .22 are very different, but I'd prefer to not be shot by either), and both the Mosin Nagant and Maxim are reliable, sturdy weapons. I own a Mosin Nagant and it is a very good weapon, though mine is more living museum piece than weapon I'd use to defend my home. Still, if I had to survive, it would be a go to gun if I had to make my way through the wilderness.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP04 Apr 2022 3:44 p.m. PST

Sure. A Nagant is absolutely still serviceable as long as it has been taken care of. That said, not my primary choice for modern warfare.

Cuprum2 Supporting Member of TMP04 Apr 2022 7:02 p.m. PST

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