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The Shadow03 Apr 2022 9:21 a.m. PST

My Africa Korp. card set Panzer III card gives the following description for a Panzer III:

Panzer III (long 5cm)

Which model Panzer III does this represent?

14Bore03 Apr 2022 9:27 a.m. PST


Had a better site saved on yahoo older tablet but this looks good.

14Bore03 Apr 2022 9:37 a.m. PST

Ausf N seems to be the answer

BBT202003 Apr 2022 9:51 a.m. PST

I think you are looking for the "Mark III Special".
PzKpfw.III Ausf L with a 50mm KwK 39 L/60.

Kuznetsov03 Apr 2022 11:21 a.m. PST

Based on this:


I think the correct answer is Panzer III J (Late).

Short 5cm – III J
Long 5cm – III J (Late)
Long 5cm (Uparmored) – III L

This would be the old model:


14Bore03 Apr 2022 12:56 p.m. PST

On link it's F-N listing

Kuznetsov03 Apr 2022 1:25 p.m. PST

OP specified "long 5cm" and a Panzer III N is a short 7.5cm.

KarlBergman03 Apr 2022 8:19 p.m. PST

14Bore The Panzer III N had the short 75.

The Shadow03 Apr 2022 8:52 p.m. PST

I think that Kuznetsov is correct. It's a PZ III J. I plan to build me armies in 6mm, and GHQ shows the "J" version as being the "long" version. Thanks for all of your replies.

BBT202003 Apr 2022 10:12 p.m. PST

My copy of George Bradford's "Rommel's Afrika Korps" has pictures of Mark III J and Mark III L with the 50mm L/60 long gun. Most Mark III J models in Afrika seem to be armed with the shorter 50mm L/42.

McWong7304 Apr 2022 2:31 p.m. PST

Later production run PzIIIJ's had the long 5cm. Uparmoured versions were designated IIIL.

Martin Rapier06 Apr 2022 12:08 a.m. PST

The first long 50s were J (with new guns), followed by L. At Gazala they were pretty much all uogunned J (and present in very small numbers).

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