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Stalkey and Co01 Apr 2022 9:32 a.m. PST

So I saw the starter set for $180 USD at Warlord and another vendor.

I found it for $120 USD, listed for $100 USD at another vendor.

A single Limber is $21. USD
A few foot figures – skirmishers, dismounted cavalry – are $72. USD

It's like they have a monkey randomly roaming the website setting price points or something. I can't figure out what's going on.

Definitely not complaining about getting a starter set for $100 USD, but a British YouTube presenter said he bought it for 90 Pounds, which is about $120 USD, so that price sounds right.

Were there two different starter sets with different things in them?

This is not so much a complaint as a question, I'm wondering if I'm missing something here.

I checked out the Epic Waterloo prices, and those all seem to make sense to me.

Wackmole901 Apr 2022 10:07 a.m. PST

Limbers are 2 per pack. The Skirmishers & Dismounted cavalry are metal, So more expansive. They will soon be made of plastic.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP01 Apr 2022 10:28 a.m. PST

The other vendors are selling them at a reduced price in order to move them. Warlord's plan seems to be to suck you in with low cost infantry, then get your money with high priced support and command.

Stalkey and Co01 Apr 2022 11:00 a.m. PST

Ah, I hadn't thought of that – of course there must be discounters in UK, also, so perhaps the 90 pound starter box is the discount price. The YouTube video fellow didn't say.

I dunno, if they are "small 15s" then the pricing is neither high nor low. The real issue is quality of the additional metal sculpts v. the competition.

John Leahy Supporting Member of TMP01 Apr 2022 11:03 a.m. PST

They are not 15's. I believe they are about 13.5mm.

Thanks

John

JimDuncanUK01 Apr 2022 11:15 a.m. PST

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Stalkey and Co01 Apr 2022 12:03 p.m. PST

Looking around a bit more…

I can honestly say that I'm fine with "the cast of thousands" being cast together in marching poses. After all, they are not unique characters in the "drama" of the wargame.

But I may want something different for an unusual unit like:
Zouaves, Iron Brigade, Colored Infantry, etc.

If you check out the zouave box, it has 3x100 Infantry regiments, for 300 infantry total.

If I say I'd rather have ONE zouave unit of 100 and two Iron Brigade Units of 100 each, then I'd be looking at
3x32 for 96 figs, which is $24 USD, total of $75 USD for 300 figs.

The Warlord box of Zouave Infantry is $72 USD, same price.

So overall, it doesn't seem like the price points are much different. However, If I want one regiment of 100 Zouaves, I'd take the $24 USD option from Kallistra.

OTOH, the full gun and limber sets for $8 USD for 2 is a no-brainer.

So it will pay to shop around a bit, isall.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP01 Apr 2022 1:31 p.m. PST

Kallistra does seem to be the " go to" choice for those who don't want Warlord's add-on sets.

LPGallagher Supporting Member of TMP04 Apr 2022 10:36 a.m. PST

I second Kallistra as add ons.

PaulRPetri08 Apr 2022 1:56 p.m. PST

wackmole9 I hope you are right about all the metal Epic ACW stuff going to plastic. I had read it was supposed to be some sort of resin but it didn't workout.

Stalkey and Co I just checked the Warlord website and the prices of the metal add ons for the ACW line jumped from $72.00 USD to $83.00 USD! I did not see anything from Warlord about a price increase. I went with Kalistra even paying the high shipping cost at it still beat the Warlord price by a mile. Now the gap widens even more.

Baranovich09 Apr 2022 5:09 p.m. PST

I also second Kallistra for addons, they are the closest to Epic Scale I've seen so far.

If you look on Ebay you'll also see some of that discount pricing for ACW. The same thing is happening with the Waterloo range. The British and French starter sets are $145 USD on Warlord's website.

But you can get them on ebay for as low as $130 USD with free shipping.

As was said above, it's all about moving product by offering a little bit of a discount. Plus the free shipping is a huge bonus.

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