"Russian soldiers get stuck in elevator" Topic

…one of the latest social media updates from the invasion, posted by eastern European news outlet Visegrád 24, which showed a squad of Russian soldiers packed tightly in an elevator, supposedly stuck while trying to make their way to the top of a building…

Task and Purpose: link

Using an elevator in a war zone? Words fail me.

Can't use an elevator, can't open a door on a shop….these guys must be trained well.

+1 on all dice rolls for incompetence…..

The info I got was that it is a Russian paratrooper recon squad. They entered the building to get to the roof to use it for observing and calling in indirect fire. it is in a suburb to Kyiev

The caretaker shut off the electricity…

If it is true it shows that the troops are not well trained at all. No matter what you NEVER, NEVER EVER use an elevator in a hot war zone.

No matter what you use the stairs.

Imagine the terror, "Hi guys, this is what will happen, you will either surrender or we will throw in a grenade or two I ten seconds, your choice, 10, 9, 8…"

Or slightly more macabrely. Russian artillery destroys the local substation; post-war building survey engineers come along to check the building and note a particularly nasty smell from one of the stuck elevators…

Soldiers stuck in an elevator will almost certainly be able, eventually, to force the door and get out, or climb onto the top of the elevator car and force the door of the floor above. A bayonet, sturdy knife, entrenching tool, or something similar can be used as a lever between the door panels to push them open enough get hands on them, and a few young men will be strong enough to overcome the doors.

Of course, if the elevator cable gets cut while they're doing that … well, we've all seen that movie.

Actually some of this surprised me. Doesn't include what to do if there an ongoing FIBU situation in the building!

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This was shown from the very beginning of the war.

Too funny.

The Russian soldiers were from the town of "Hootervilleski". 😉

Is this story like the Ghost of Kyiv, Snake Island, or Airsoft Miss Ukraine?

Well, in any situation, expect smoke and fire, the elevator is the most fast and quiet way up. That any person from the flat country side don't know that, means only too small personal expertise with big city live.
Any 8 soldier team climbing up the fire stairs, fully equiped at night, using torches at night and in an city full of enemy fighters will be detected very fast. There is allways a housekeeper or a old lady with a nasty little dog.
Maybe "elevator training" and " how to use elevator in combat zones" is necesary.
Don't forget, military means, uneducated personal, operating at the lowest possible level.

Just like I said. Hootervilleski. Most of you probably have no idea what that refers to, unless you watched TV in the 60's.

Well, in any situation, expect smoke and fire, the elevator is the most fast and quiet way up.

Having been a resident in a tower block, in supposedly a first world country, I'd be inclined to say no. Quicker may be. Lift motors can make a horrible racket if old or not well maintained, and the door opening 'ding' at least where I lived could be reliable heard even though I lived in a flat quite away from the landing. You also find yourself noticing 'unusual' lift use. Mechanical reliability can be an issue. Landings are also the most public bit of a block and people will use the lifts to hop up or down a floor just to see neighbours. Modern blocks can also have key fob security on the lifts. Beyond the 3rd floor I don't think I ever saw a soul on the stairs when I used them, usually only to go down all 15 floors! Also IIRC correctly the staircases gave access to the roof, that wasn't obvious from the top elevator landing.

In a previous workplace, staff were instructed not to use Lift as 'unreliable'… for necessary use for 'trolleys', etc.

Doing a spell of night shift ' security' when building work being done, but workers gone… nobody there but Me…
The Lift would operate by itself… with nobody using it!
WOW !

A lift at work is reported to occasionally announce arrival at floors that don't exist!

From the link provided by ROUWetPatchBehindTheSofa:

Resist Prying Open Doors

While most doors can be pried open in an emergency, this is not always the best course of action to take. … There's also the real possibility that the elevator will start to unexpectedly shift or start working again as you or someone else is reaching or climbing out of the cab. Use your best judgment as you determine risk vs reward when considering this option.

Obviously written for civilians in peacetime. Soldiers in a combat zone have to weigh risk of amputation against the enemy cutting the cables or dropping explosives down the elevator shaft.

Unless you're trapped in a fire, collapse or in an abandoned building, there's a good chance that someone will know that the elevator is stuck.

That someone may well be the enemy, so -- yeah, I think you take the chance of somebody losing a body part.

cutting the cables

Doesn't work, they have brakes – though a sudden sharp fall before the brakes kick-in would probably result in a high risk of fractures and some brown trousers….

Effectively, going in an elevator in EVERY dangerous situation, not only in a war zone, it's a sure way to get a premature signature for the Darwin Awards, an elevator can became a real death trap, there's no way to escape from it, you're stuck in an enclosed space with no means to survive if someone starts to play dirty…
P.s. possible that no one of these guys has ever seen an episode of whatever TV show about firemen, rescue squads or similar?