"US Sending Its Own Soviet Equipment to Ukraine" Topic

The Pentagon over the years has acquired Soviet equipment as part of a clandestine program, and now such weapons are going to Ukraine

Wall Street Journal: link

Well, I seem to remember seeing motorpools full of BTR-60's at the NTC way back around 1986, but they were planning to equip the OPFOR with them. My understanding was that plan was scuttled due to asbestos issues. Then there was the Hind helicopter being hauled down the interstate that I saw during Desert Shield. We have batches of that stuff stored all over, glad to see it's not forgotten and sent down range to be a hard target.

Yes, saw some USSR equipment at the NTC[Not Vis-mods real Russkie stuff]. And yes have seen USSR MBTs, AFVs, etc. in many locations at US ARMY installations, E.g. Ft Lewis, WA., Camp Casey, ROK, etc., etc. back in the '80s.

We should be sending them M-1 tanks, and/or appealing to the Afghans to send some of the $87 USD BILLION they got to Ukraine, since Putin might attack them again too, just for grins.

Are the Ukrainians trained on the M-1? They're certainly trained on the T-72, and on the S-8. It looks as if the Germans are supplying them too: link

To send systems like the M1 MBT may take too long to train, support, etc., the Ukrainian Forces to use them. Not to mention getting them there in any numbers, etc. Sending weapons & equipment that they can pretty much use with very little training, e.g., the Javelin, or out of the box is a better solution, IMO.

And as we see the Germans sending Russian Strellas from old East German stocks.

The Taliban albeit have many, many US[& some Russian] weapons systems, etc. They are mostly Small Arms and various trucks, including MaxxPros, pick up trucks, etc. However, we sent the ANA M113 APCs, IIRC sixty of them. So in most cases there really is nothing that the Ukraine could use, IMO/AFAIK.

Plus they will say they need them to support them and their ally AQ to fight ISIS-K. Not to mention all the small arms ammo it takes to execute the infidels in their country. Which it appears there are many. I.e. anyone who does not believe as they do, etc., etc.

I imagine they could be trained on the M-1 tanks, and on our F-16s too.

Sadly, those S-300s have still not been approved and the foot-dragging on that continues, more than 15 days after it was first floated, which is appalling.

Ukrainian pilots have been trained, and flown competitive ops in the USA already, so I think we should be bringing some here now for further training.

I suspect we should also encourage a Ukrainian "Flying Tigers" unit from the USA and NATO countries too.

I imagine they could be trained on the M-1 tanks, and on our F-16s too.

They could but it will take time along with log support, etc. The time is just not available. Nor is the time for a "Flying Tigers", IMO.

The S-300s and MiG 29s should have been there by now. 'nuff said …

the flying tiger unit could be helicopters. some of these are based on civilian types so logistics should be a bit easier
ok air defence limited to mounted stingers as opposed to proper fighter defence
but ground attack should be ok something as simple as rocket pods?

If the reports are correct, much of newer US equipment shipments promised has not got there yet ? So old Russian stuff from the US is probably not a priority if being sent at all ? Why waste the cargo space? When it can be gotten by the former WP members now NATO.

the flying tiger unit could be helicopters. some of these are based on civilian types so logistics should be a bit easier
ok air defence limited to mounted stingers as opposed to proper fighter defence
but ground attack should be ok something as simple as rocket pods?

There was something like that called "Air America" in Vietnam. Still don't think "Flying Tigers" or "Air America" is worthwhile/needed. Just give the Ukrainians what they ask for. They have proven they know how to fight.

They are using the Turk's IIRC TB2 drones to great effect. They are and can do the job without risking anymore lives than needed. Regardless, the Russian ADA is no better than the rest of their army, AFAIK. IIRC the US "Switchblade Kamikaze Drone" that was promised has not made it there yet ?

If these supplies are any slower, the war will be over. Maybe that is the USA's plan ? Rumor was the USA was trying to push Zelinsky into making peace with Putin. And in turn the Ukraine will be under Russia's heel again. Would not surprise me either.

Seems the USA's priorities lay elsewhere. As has often been said to the US Military by US civilian leadership. Their priority is climate change. I saw the footage. Putin's War is getting in the way to save the planet. One appointed US official said as much … I saw the footage …