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Mysterioso Inactive Member17 Oct 2005 9:41 a.m. PST

I can not figure this out, as the scales conversion I driving me mad.

If Godzilla, according to Wikipedia, is 164 feet tall, what size (in inches) would he be in 28mm mini scale assuming 28mm represents a 5'10 man?

I guess another way of putting this is if one wanted to buy a Godzilla toy that would be to scale for 28mm miniatures(say Murch's Pulp figures), would it even be possible? The old Aurora model is probably too small, right? The old Shogun Warriors toy?

CaseyNOVA Inactive Member17 Oct 2005 9:46 a.m. PST

Well, here's the math.

70 inches / 28 = 2.5

That means 1mm equals 2.5 inches in terms of scale.

Godzilla is 1968 inches. Divide that by 2.5 and you get 787.7 mm. That in turn equals 78.7 cm or almost a full meter tall.

That's mighty big. I've seen really large Godzilla toys at places like Costco, though, so you might be able to work up something. I think it'd take too much room to be fun, however. This is one of those instances where I think 6mm would be great fun. You could have tons of stands of tanks and victims running around while Godzilla battles other monsters. Plus I'd imagine he'd be a smaller, and more mobile, figure on a terrain board. Not to mention actually building buildings that'd fit to scale. If you can do a whole terrain board of a 28mm cityscape than you've got more time than I could ever spend :)

cwchmc Inactive Member17 Oct 2005 9:48 a.m. PST

Well…I assume 28mm scale to be about 1/60 or 1" = 5'…not totally accurate but its easy math. Therefore 164' Godzilla would need to be about 37". I'd say anything over 12" would look adequately large on the teable though.

Chuck

Dread Pirate Garness Fezian Inactive Member17 Oct 2005 9:52 a.m. PST

If Godzilla is 164 ft tall, then the appropriate conversion would be a scale Godzilla toy would be 787.2mm, or if we convert back into inches 31 inches.

Seems kinda short when ya think about it, but if you divide 164 by 5.875, which is close to 5'10", then you get a total of 27.91 men standing on each others head to be even height with Godzilla.

Close enough fopr govt. work though

Farstar Inactive Member17 Oct 2005 9:55 a.m. PST

This is a good case for heading down to the local purveyor of odd footwear, particularly near Halloween, and acquiring a pair of big lizard feet, then heading to an aquarium supply and/or water garden supply for one of those three-foot-long floating crocs. With feet and a tail on the table, you have all the bits that will be meaningful (for targetting and crush attacks) on the table.

has left TMP for good Inactive Member17 Oct 2005 10:02 a.m. PST

The height of Godzilla has varied over the years. In some movies he is just much taller than in others.

What does this mean? You have the liberty to choose a height for your model that works, as long as it looks "about right."

aecurtis Fezian Inactive Member17 Oct 2005 10:22 a.m. PST

Just make a suit for your six-year old kid and let him stomp all over your buddies' miniatures…

Allen

Cold Steel17 Oct 2005 10:35 a.m. PST

Make it even simpler: up the scale to 54mm plastic soldiers and rent a suit yourself. Just make sure your gaming table iss trong enough.

Cpt Arexu Inactive Member17 Oct 2005 10:36 a.m. PST

I have used the Aurora model kits with 1/300 miniatures, and scaled down buildings, that lets you get a good chunk of city on a table.

I'd love to see 28mm Godzilla, but I'll let you build the terrain (and ptovide the really big table)…

Cpt Arexu Inactive Member17 Oct 2005 10:37 a.m. PST

Ptovide? I guess the P is silent, like Ptarmigan…

I meant PROVIDE.

The Trojan Warrior Inactive Member17 Oct 2005 10:40 a.m. PST

On another note, what rules would you use for Godzilla? It would have to be pretty detailed.

BigSteve Inactive Member17 Oct 2005 10:45 a.m. PST

I've found that with 28mm stuff, a sufficiently burly monster at 12" high or so is quite threatening. Check out Bowen Studios' "Kongzilla" if you can find the unpainted resin version. The recent "Stay Puft Marshmallow Man" from Neca is also good at towering over your standard infantry. Also good to keep in mind, even lumbering along, long legs make for a huge stride and a critter 2+' tall could be off the table in a turn or two. Better to keep them short and on the playing field.

SpuriousMilius17 Oct 2005 10:46 a.m. PST

Years ago, I had a Godzilla blow up toy that was 6 feet tall inflated. Taking an inch in 28mm scale to be 5 feet/inch that made the vinyl critter 360 feet tall in 28mm scale. This would be OK for the 3rd & largest version of Godzilla: according to "The Official Godzilla Compendium" (pub. 1998) the 3 versions of Big G are years 1954-75=164' (32-33" in 28mm), 1984-89=262' (52") & 1991-95=328' (65-66"). The Aurora model I have is 8" tall which is OK for the Godzillasaurus ,39', which was said to be the original dino that mutated into Big G. I think that any toy or model 24+ inches would look OK & be useable on the tabletop.

Psycho Rabbit Inactive Member17 Oct 2005 11:27 a.m. PST

Oi…..Godzira!

Not sure about how practical the project would be, but I for one would partake if I saw it at a con.

Rabbit

DoctorStu Inactive Member17 Oct 2005 11:29 a.m. PST

The cartoon theme song declared Godzilla to be thirty stories tall.

CorpCommander Inactive Member17 Oct 2005 4:12 p.m. PST

I've seen 1/285 scale Godzilla games and I've seen Godzilla games using 8" or 12" (can't remember) toys used for King of the Monsters type games very late at night at HMGS East cons.

At 28mm you might as well just have someone dress up as Godzilla and shout Mozeltov! as they stomp the buildings… if you do end up doing this let me know so I can video it. heheh!

Sargonarhes17 Oct 2005 4:39 p.m. PST

I've been going to starship dimensions a lot lately.
merzo.net

Godzilla is there at the bottom of the x1 scale page. And Jeff according to his figures have Godzilla at 100 meters tall. King Kong would be toe jam if he messed with Godzilla. So to accuratly have Godzilla in 28mm scale, go find a Godzilla suit for someone to dress up like him for monster stomp 2005. Which is what CorpCommander suggests, and I agree.

thymone Inactive Member17 Oct 2005 4:54 p.m. PST

If you really want to do Godzilla in 28mm scale, you might consider just doing each foot separately and then a portion of the tail. And possibly a flame template. There was an old minigame called Stomp! that had a giant vs elves with only the giant's feet being shown.

Randy

troopwo Supporting Member of TMP17 Oct 2005 5:33 p.m. PST

Godzillas' height doesn't matter.

No building in Tokyo will survive long enough to measure up and compare to him.

Cpt Arexu Inactive Member17 Oct 2005 8:27 p.m. PST

The problem I have with 28mm Godzilla is the scale of the opponents — you'll need FLEETS of jets and armor to attack him, and that's going to cost a ton in 28mm. Its why I do these games in 1/300 and 1/700 instead.

MaksimSmelchak Inactive Member18 Oct 2005 7:50 a.m. PST

Hi Peachy and Gang,

When things get as big as Godzilla or an OGRE, you're allowed to distort the scale tables a little…

I prefer the whole 6mm / 1/285 games of Monster Island from Firefly Games because I can fit a reasonably sized city and human "crunchy" armies on the board. I use kaiju from 1" to 4" for this purpose, which includes most HG figures.

Anything bigger would be for 15mm or 28mm in my book.

Toy kaiju often come in the 8" size range and model kit kaiju often come even bigger (12"-16" or more!). It's up to you!

Shalom,
Maksim-Smelchak.

Joep123 Supporting Member of TMP18 Oct 2005 7:38 p.m. PST

I purchased the 6-7" Godzilla and Ghidorah from Bandai at Toys are Us.
Will use them against each other and against 1/76 scale (20mm?) US. Style plastic troops, tanks.

I also have the "Pack of Destruction" purchased at KayBee Toys with Godzilla and friends scaled at 3-4" tall.
These could go against each other but would also go against my 1/285 MicroArmour or 6mm sci-fi-even Epic Armegeddon Orcs.
JR Miniatures puts out a lot of buildings for games like Battletech, that would fit this scale.
I tried to go with exact scale too, but I think all of this will work well together.
joep

Hundvig Fezian Inactive Member19 Oct 2005 5:25 p.m. PST

I actually bought the old Kongzilla resin kit a while back for use in Vor as one of the megafauna from the Growler homeworld. It's big enough to make a convincing 28mm giant monster, albeit not 164 feet tall in scale…probably about half that, 18-24 inches in height. You could certainly game with something that size, although you'll want a big table, and the model needs to be either well-balanced or based somehow. Vinyl Godzilla kits might be the way to go, since you can weight their legs with plaster to lower the center of gravity so easily.

Three feet tall is probably still asking too much, though.

Rich

Mysterioso Inactive Member21 Oct 2005 7:31 p.m. PST

Thanks for the serious feedback. This whole thing was more a notion than anything else (and a plea as the scales and ratios thing is just so frustrating).

The Kongzilla statue would be great if there was one to be found. Will have to check E-bay every once in a while.

As for switching to another scale, thanks but I am fine with 25-28mm which is what my old miniatures were and now that I am back to thinking about miniatures after years of them being away whatever new ones I pick up.

And as for stomping and the like, well, not really what I had in mind.

Again, thanks to all who put forward notions here.

Personal logo mmitchell Sponsoring Member of TMP Inactive Member17 Nov 2005 11:25 a.m. PST

According to an interview I read in G-Fan magazine, the original Godzilla height was established at about 50 meters (165 feet) so that Godzilla could peek over the tops of the buildings during his rampage. That's the same motivation for increasing his height to 80 meters (about 260 feet) for Godzilla 84. I have found, by the way, that with 1/64 scale vehicles that any Godzilla over one foot tall makes for a worthy opponent. Likewise, he looks find against 25mm figures, too.

I'd say, just start playing and see how it goes.

Norscaman Inactive Member17 Nov 2005 3:17 p.m. PST

Anything is possible, but SHOULD you do it is the question. Were I you, I'd game it in 10mm or 6mm and have fun. Maksim would tell you to do the same.

Goldwyrm Inactive Member18 Nov 2005 7:20 p.m. PST

I used to have an 8" Godzilla I wanted to use with Epic/Space Marine. We never figured out stats for him and stopped playing.

Whichever Godzilla toy you choose, choose the biggest.

camelspider Inactive Member21 Nov 2005 6:47 p.m. PST

Depends on the "true" height of Gojira you settle on. I have a Gojira 89 model from Kaiyodo, in 1/80th scale. It's almost four feet tall. It's eight feet long from tip of mose to tip of tail.

It roughly corresponds to 1/72-1/76 scale, a common wargaming scale also known as "20mm", and with a little stretching could be used, I guess, in 28mm gaming.

Of course, it'd be much easier if you determine that the true height of Godzilla was fifteen feet tall. :)

Pyrate Captain05 Mar 2017 11:34 p.m. PST

I calculate 35 inches.

It wold be easier to use the Bandai 6" Gojira and micro-armor.

Dr Argent06 Mar 2017 9:17 a.m. PST

Scientific Proof:

link

Whemever1 Supporting Member of TMP06 Mar 2017 11:03 a.m. PST

What about just having a giant reptilian foot or two? They'd be about 5 or 6 inches.

Sargonarhes07 Mar 2017 7:41 p.m. PST

Sure Godzilla is possible in 28mm scale. Just put on a rubber suit and be Godzilla!

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