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02 Feb 2022 1:38 p.m. PST
by Editor in Chief Bill

  • Changed title from "cordite and steel rules tunring circles" to "Cordite and Steel rules - turning circles"

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1968billsfan02 Feb 2022 1:04 p.m. PST

I have an old copy of these rules but the turning circles have disappeared to somewhere. Does anybody have these and could they send a copy of them? Will repay with some WWI naval book that I find.

Major Mike02 Feb 2022 8:15 p.m. PST

Hmmm, I have the rules, but the question is where? I'll have to look around.

Wolfhag Supporting Member of TMP03 Feb 2022 11:02 a.m. PST

I have it laying on top of a stack of books but no turning circles.

This may help: link


Personal logo The Virtual Armchair General Sponsoring Member of TMP03 Feb 2022 11:20 a.m. PST

Thank you, Wolfhag!

I was unaware that the turning circles were still available anywhere outside of what I still have in the Ancient Sacred Crypts.

Bless you all for still holding onto your copies of C&S, and please don't despair that you'll not see it return in superior form.

Scanned copies of the many, many ship cards never published may be possible, and newly calculated Range/Danger Space/and Penetration values printed with percentile chances of hitting based on gun platform and target heights can be made available.

If anyone is interested, please contact us at

Munster04 Feb 2022 3:08 a.m. PST

LMK if you need a scan of the turning circles as my copy has them.

Wolfhag Supporting Member of TMP04 Feb 2022 7:16 a.m. PST

I knew you'd respond to this one. I'll get an email off to you.


Personal logo The Virtual Armchair General Sponsoring Member of TMP09 Feb 2022 10:46 a.m. PST

As a result of the original post, Mr. Chris Ferree has prepared "next generation" Turning Circles for "C&S" in 1:2400 (to match those printed with the original rules) in PDF file format for self printing, and these are free for the asking by E-mailing

Further, other sets are being made available for use with models in 1:6000, 1:4800, 1:3000, and even 1:1200 (though the latter would have to be taken to a Print Shop due to their physical size).

These Turning Circles are based on true 32 point navigation and delineated in two Classes for Armored Cruiser and larger, and Lt. Cruiser and smaller, as affected by current speed. These should be usable with any set of rules where the models and movement are in the same scale.

"Cordite And Steel" itself, and its voluminous Gun Data, will be returning to TVAG as a new edition of the rules and National Gun Collections, each in the usual scales.

Please watch for announcements here at TMP and at


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