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FilsduPoitou27 Jan 2022 11:14 a.m. PST

I thought about doing a small fun project: a 28mm squad of mid 1980s US Army infantry with the new PAGST helmets. I know that M1s were still in use alongside PAGSTs during this time, but I always preferred the look of the later. The only manufacturer I found that makes them are Mike Bravo Miniatures, who appear to have completely disappeared several years ago. Would anyone have any suggestions?

Likui00627 Jan 2022 2:47 p.m. PST

Look at under fire miniatures, they have them!

Thresher0127 Jan 2022 2:54 p.m. PST

A lot of troops didn't get these until after the Cold War was won.

IIRC, in the mid-1980s they were just starting to be issued, so not too many units/troops would have them.

Captain Pete27 Jan 2022 4:19 p.m. PST

I was in 3AD in Germany from 1981-1985. We received our Kevlar helmets which replaced the steel pots sometime in 1984.

Personal logo Murphy Sponsoring Member of TMP31 Jan 2022 7:59 p.m. PST

1st AD 1984-1986. We got ours in early '85.

FilsduPoitou01 Feb 2022 1:50 p.m. PST

@Likui006 Those certainly look like a good fit and supposedly with my limited research it seems like versions without the helmet scrim will (hopefully) come out somewhat in the near future.

@ Everyone else: Interesting. Would you say that within a platoon, it could have a mix of kevlar and M1 helmets at the same time circa mid 80s? @Captain Pete? @Murphy? If so, I could get both varieties from Under Fire Miniatures to make a less uniform looking force on the table.

Irish Marine01 Feb 2022 7:35 p.m. PST

No mixing, we went from steel pot to Kevlar in one day at supply, the whole company. You might have better luck with 20mm.

FilsduPoitou04 Mar 2022 1:26 p.m. PST

After giving it some thought, I honestly think 20mm would be a nice choice as suggested by Irish Marine; a lot of model vehicles appear to come in 1/72 and it would be cheaper than 28mm (of which I already have too many projects!), even if I wanted to do larger combined arms operations. This scale however is nearly completely foreign to me when it comes to manufacturers. I know Italeri makes 1/72 1980s US infantry, but do I have other options?

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP11 Mar 2022 7:10 p.m. PST

Yes, our steel pots were replaced by Kelvars about '84, 2ID '84-'85, ROK … old fart

And yes, no mixing of helmets …

BTW, I never heard any soldier calling his/her helmet a PAGST. Albeit the official name, everyone called it a Kevlar. 😎 We had the M1s in the 101, '80-'83, then the 2ID in about mid '84 we got the Kevlar. And that is all we worn until I ETS'd from a Mech Hvy Bde at Benning in '90.

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