| monk2002uk | 17 Dec 2021 6:41 a.m. PST |
From the Turner Miniatures Napoleonic range of STL files for 3D printing. Here are 6mm French dragoons printed on a resin 3D printer with 25 micron thick layers:
Robert |
Sho Boki  | 17 Dec 2021 6:54 a.m. PST |
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| nsolomon99 | 17 Dec 2021 2:32 p.m. PST |
Actually, I think they're Lancers. They look great. |
| Alcibiades | 17 Dec 2021 3:16 p.m. PST |
Definitely not lancers. The musket and lack of comb confirms them as dragoons. Very nice. At first glance thought they were 15s. |
| monk2002uk | 17 Dec 2021 10:21 p.m. PST |
Thanks very much. Yes, the figure bottom-left is carrying the flag pole; bottom second-left is carrying the eagle. The rest are dragoons. The quality of the prints helps with the painting. Even the coat buttons sit proud enough that they were easy to paint. Robert |
| monk2002uk | 18 Dec 2021 1:56 a.m. PST |
Here are the British heavy dragoons:
Robert |
| SHaT1984 | 18 Dec 2021 1:19 p.m. PST |
Not my liking- too disproportinate and caricaturish, even if the print is good, the artistry is not.
The riders helmets are bigger than the horses heads, who appear to be tiny ponies from the Asian steppes with football players legs.
Horse legs taper drastically from top to hooves.
cheers |
| MarbotsChasseurs | 18 Dec 2021 3:04 p.m. PST |
A few youtube videos showing them. Even one showing how they can be modified. The idea you can make miniatures unique and to how you like them, is pretty exciting. Chunky, yes, but many people don't like Adler miniatures due to their big heads, but I do! YouTube link YouTube link YouTube link |
| MarbotsChasseurs | 18 Dec 2021 8:18 p.m. PST |
Dave, A little more searching shows you can change the proportions and shape of horses. YouTube link |
| monk2002uk | 19 Dec 2021 12:18 a.m. PST |
The difference in proportions is key to the smallest scales. If you model something accurately and then try to print or cast at such small scales then several problems occur. Weapons like swords and flintlocks, etc as well as poles and even horses' legs become too thin to manufacture reliably or even at all. Even more important is that the aesthetics look 'wrong' in quite a different way. 'Accurate' figures do not look 'normal' because many features simply do not stand out enough. With 6mm and the likes, it is the mass effect of multiple figures that is so impressive. When viewed from several feet above the table, the disproportionate and caricaturist style becomes an asset. Robert |
| monk2002uk | 19 Dec 2021 12:27 a.m. PST |
MabotsChasseurs, Henry's approach to making the Blender files available is a major step forwards in 3D printing. I can vouch for the fact that each figure that you print can be personalised if you wish. Robert |
| Gazzola | 19 Dec 2021 5:48 a.m. PST |
The French dragoon on the lower level next to the trumpeter at the end, looks like he's got a pirate's sword! But early days and a great effort. They can only get better I imagine. |
| monk2002uk | 19 Dec 2021 6:36 a.m. PST |
It does look like that when you see these close up photos. But not when you view the figures from 3-4 feet away, above the table. The sword is only 0.8mm wide Robert |
| monk2002uk | 19 Dec 2021 1:37 p.m. PST |
Here are British light dragoons:
Robert |
| Trockledockle | 19 Dec 2021 4:15 p.m. PST |
I think that the painting is really good and these represent a firm foundation. Yes, some of the proportions don't look great but imagine what they will be like in a couple of years. This does look like the way of the future. |
| Gazzola | 19 Dec 2021 4:18 p.m. PST |
Sorry but the first trooper in the middle row also looks like he has a pirates sword. And the regimental standard poles look far too thick. But as you say, when in mass and on the table, I imagine they won't stand out as much. And the sword of the end trooper on the bottom row doesn't look as bad from that angle. It'll be interesting to see how things develop in this area. |
| Gazzola | 19 Dec 2021 4:18 p.m. PST |
Sorry but the first trooper in the middle row also looks like he has a pirates sword. And the regimental standard poles look far too thick. But as you say, when in mass and on the table, I imagine they won't stand out as much. And the sword of the end trooper on the bottom row doesn't look as bad from that angle. It'll be interesting to see how things develop in this area. |
| MarbotsChasseurs | 19 Dec 2021 5:48 p.m. PST |
I think they look good. What is the cost and savings compared to metal and plastic miniatures? I would imagine the savings are better on figures 18mm and up. |
| von Winterfeldt | 19 Dec 2021 11:45 p.m. PST |
I agree they look very good, in case get them on the table in unit formation and they will look excellent. |
| monk2002uk | 19 Dec 2021 11:47 p.m. PST |
With regards to the regimental standard pole, the British light dragoon second from right in the bottom row is a standard bearer as well. His hand is open and you can place a thinner metal standard pole, such as a length of brass rod, if you wish. 6mm figures have to be painted with brighter than usual colours. Otherwise, colours that would normally be used on 28mm figures appear too dull. This is because the smaller size reflects much less light. The same principle means that swords can be more pronounced on the figure in close up but appear less prominent en masse and at distance. I am painting up a regiment of Russian hussars so you will be able to judge for yourself. Also bear in mind that, as a result of the mass effect of 6mm figures, it is not necessary to paint them to the level of detail that I have. It is something that I enjoy doing FWIIW. The proportions of these models are the same as at least two other major manufacturers of 6mm figures. Mostly you do not see such figures in close up like this. The main cost is the upfront purchase of a resin 3D printer. You can't achieve this quality of print with an FDM printer at this small scale. It is now possible to buy good quality resin printers for a few hundred dollars or pounds. The cost of the resin is about 1/10th the cost of buying the same figures in metal. Robert |
| Sparta | 20 Dec 2021 5:14 a.m. PST |
Thanks for sharing those wonderfull pictures Robert – your painting is exquisite. The very detailed close ups confuse people, who are not used to seeing so small figures up so close, but the propoertions are IMO spot on for 6mm. I agree completely that HenryTurners figures are topnotch – as collector of Adler for 20 years – and can match these completely. I do believe that this is the future, and most have not yet realized the massive potential for customization and variation of the individual poses and figure as well as scales. I just painted a cuirassier – and allthough it is humble compared to your efforts, I have put it up here so TMP´ers can see some more of this range. Cheers Nic
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| monk2002uk | 20 Dec 2021 5:51 a.m. PST |
Thank you, Sparta. Whilst your figures may have been painted with humility, they illustrate your skill! Your point about Adler is well made. I have painted many figures in the Adler WW2 range. The quality of the sculpts, especially the raised details, make them a pleasure to paint as well. Great to see the cuirassier posted here. Next off my painting table will be chasseurs à cheval. Robert |
| von Winterfeldt | 20 Dec 2021 6:57 a.m. PST |
a very nice cuirassiert, looks great |
| monk2002uk | 23 Dec 2021 1:07 p.m. PST |
Some Russian hussars from the Soumy Regiment. First squadron so far.
Robert |
| Gazzola | 23 Dec 2021 4:19 p.m. PST |
They are certainly well painted and I imagine will look great when in mass on the battlefield. However, as stated in another similar thread by another poster, the riders do appear too big for the horses. Saying that, it has also been mentioned that
a larger horse is available. It would certainly be interesting to see what they look like mounted on them. |
builds a cutter and a corsair, both in 1/1200 scale.
