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Captain Pete10 Dec 2021 10:24 p.m. PST

Here are some pictures of a somewhat crude looking wooden bridge by Les Batiments. I painted this one mostly for Eastern Front scenarios.

Valderian11 Dec 2021 12:42 a.m. PST

Absolutely superb!

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP11 Dec 2021 4:21 a.m. PST

Agreed. Excellent work.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP11 Dec 2021 11:20 a.m. PST

Those T34s are 6mm "scale" then? Great detail and wonderful highlighting to show it off.

Kropotkin30311 Dec 2021 2:04 p.m. PST

Hard to believe the tanks are 6mm. Excellent stuff.

FlyXwire12 Dec 2021 7:32 a.m. PST

Great little diorama, and *just* from some game terrain and placed minis……and amazing stuff they are!

Captain Pete14 Dec 2021 7:28 a.m. PST

Thank you all very much! I have a couple more bridges that I will be posting here soon.

Legionarius14 Dec 2021 7:36 p.m. PST

Beautiful minis and bridge. But I would not drive a T-34 over a wooden bridge!

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP15 Dec 2021 1:58 p.m. PST

I tried Googling this and saw countless images of tanks that did not cross such a bridge and ended up at all angles, but they did tend to be much longer bridges.

I do wonder. A quick run at the bridge. There are some fairly substantial logs gone into this. If anything gave way I would suspect the rather shallow edges onto the stream banks, not the centre of the bridge.

Great water effect and vegetation.

Captain Pete16 Dec 2021 4:34 p.m. PST

I went to the Armor Officer Basic course in 1976 at Ft. Knox, KY. At that time, it was a combined armor and cavalry course so I learned the basics of both.

In the cavalry course we learned how to conduct recon and other cavalry related missions. One mission for recon is bridge classification and we actually were issued a booklet with formulas on how to determine if a bridge could hold a tank … or not.

There is a lot to consider with how long the span is and the thickness and materials used in the supporting structure. As deadhead noted, this particular bridge does have several layers of wooden timbers and logs under the wood plank roadway that would be the ultimate determination of if the bridge is safe for certain vehicles or not.

With all that said, this is ultimately a piece of game terrain and can be determined to be safe for tanks or not, determined by whoever is running the game. You could even determine by a die roll each time a tank crosses whether the bridge holds or not for a particular tank etc. There are several ways you could play this.

Mark 1 Supporting Member of TMP16 Dec 2021 4:50 p.m. PST

Beautiful minis and bridge. But I would not drive a T-34 over a wooden bridge!

Perhaps you wouldn't, given the timeline and circumstances of your life.

If you were a Red Army tanker in 1943, you might have found a different perspective. The question of dangerous that bridge is must surely be balanced against how dangerous it is to NOT cross that bridge, no?

It is true that many tanks were lost crossing such bridges. Even more were lost by not crossing such bridges -- perhaps by bogging or flipping or striking mines when they tried to cross the obstacle by some approach not involving a bridge, perhaps by getting shot to pieces by air or arty or long-range AT fire when bunching up at the bridge while they argued the finer points of risk with the CO and their peers, perhaps by being encircled by fast-moving enemy spearheads when the unit stalled for not crossing an obstacle.

As my father used to say -- the world smells different to a midget in a crowded elevator. It all depends on your point of perspective.

-Mark
(aka: Mk 1)

Mark 1 Supporting Member of TMP16 Dec 2021 4:54 p.m. PST

Oh, and Pete, I love Love LOVE the bridge! And it is a relatively common type of bridge for the East Front in WW2, to my readings and observation.

And I would drive one of those T-34s, if I could fit into one, that is. Just beautiful. But no surprise there.

-Mark
(aka: Mk 1)

Captain Pete16 Dec 2021 6:46 p.m. PST

Thank you very much, Mark! It is always great to hear from you and get your perspective on things.

Heedless Horseman Supporting Member of TMP09 Jan 2022 12:01 a.m. PST

Great rivercolour. And, of course, scenics anf Miniatures!
Rather think T34s could use it… but how LONG it would remain usable… another matter!

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