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Royston Papworth29 Nov 2021 9:36 a.m. PST

Ok, so I have been looking at the Foundry Arab-Israeli range. I was tempted by these when they first came out and they are drawing me to them again…

I'd want Centurions to go with them, but apart from the Ace kit, I don't know of any specifically Israeli options out there. I've just made up one of their Olympia saloons and I'm loathe to get six of the Cents to find they are of similar build quality.

So, any suggestions team? Could it be as simple as any 105mm gun version? Could I use a mix of S&S' Oliphant and AVRE Centurion?

I believe that Cromwell do a Shot, but not sure how easy they are to get hold of. My last experience was about 5 years ago and was successful, but…

Royston Papworth29 Nov 2021 9:36 a.m. PST

Ok, so I have been looking at the Foundry Arab-Israeli range. I was tempted by these when they first came out and they are drawing me to them again…

I'd want Centurions to go with them, but apart from the Ace kit, I don't know of any specifically Israeli options out there. I've just made up one of their Olympia saloons and I'm loathe to get six of the Cents to find they are of similar build quality.

So, any suggestions team? Could it be as simple as any 105mm gun version? Could I use a mix of S&S' Oliphant and AVRE Centurion?

I believe that Cromwell do a Shot, but not sure how easy they are to get hold of. My last experience was about 5 years ago and was successful, but…

Irish Marine29 Nov 2021 10:36 a.m. PST

When I switched to 20mm I started buying die cast. They are somewhat pricey, but considering they come out of the box painted it's a good deal.

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Royston Papworth29 Nov 2021 1:17 p.m. PST

Hi IM,

Good idea, the diecast tend to be Mk IIIs with 20pdrs, rather than a 105mm….but I could ignore that…

Royston Papworth30 Nov 2021 8:31 a.m. PST

HW, how were they? I've bought a couple of T72s, Leopards and BMPs from them all with print lines making them unacceptable. I'd love them to improve, they have a great range of models…

Personal logo Herkybird Supporting Member of TMP01 Dec 2021 11:38 a.m. PST

I got the ACE model and find it plain fiddly.
I wish someone would do a 20mm Sho't Cal suitable for wargames too!!!

Royston Papworth01 Dec 2021 12:33 p.m. PST

I'd hoped after PSC did the 20mm T55, that they would do a Centurion with options for an early (Korean War), a Shot and a late Cold War Mk 13… Sadly I think there is nonchalance of that….

mysteron Supporting Member of TMP07 Dec 2021 2:32 a.m. PST

With Butlers an Emory board helps with their conventional range and a little patience .

The new range of printed resin are far superior but twice as expensive . These have, as far as I am aware only been offered to those on their E mailing list as it is currently a pilot scheme.
Whilst still not perfect in my eyes they are a big improvement .

For me Butlers are useful for that odd ball model you cant obtain in any other ranges.

Heedless Horseman Supporting Member of TMP24 Feb 2023 12:28 p.m. PST

When a pre teen kid, I used the old Airfix soft plastic toys! prob was no suitable enemy… so used similar Pattons instead, lol! Probably in a box, somewhere! Eventually found some T55s with little friction 'drives' but not many available. Happy Days on floor!

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