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18th Century Guy Supporting Member of TMP20 Nov 2021 10:37 a.m. PST

All, I am looking for the standard/flag carried by the Chasseur a Cheval of Berg. This is before they carried the lance and became the famous Lancers du Berg. Anyone have a link to what the standard/flag would look like?

Thanks.

Prince of Essling20 Nov 2021 2:04 p.m. PST

From Forthoffer

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The suggestion is that it was smaller version of the infantry standard though it is not known what lettering (if any) took the place of the number in the wreaths in the corners of the standard.

Infantry standard (obverse) from 1807
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See article on the regiment by Guy Dempsey Jr. at link
"Although there is no evidence that the Light Horse carried standards into Spain, we do know that Murat ordered standards for each squadron in January 1808 and there would probably have been enough time for the Berg military authorities to put that order into effect before the unit departed for the Peninsula. If standards were issued, it seems probable that it would have followed the model of the flags known to have been delivered to the first Berg infantry regiment in January (which are said to have displayed the same pattern on both the obverse and the reverse): a square red standard with the coat of arms of Grand Duke Joachim (including the spirited motto "God, Glory and Women") on a white octagonal central field surrounded by gold laurel leaves and with gold wreathes in the corners enclosing the number "I".[60] For the Light Horse, the corner wreathes would perhaps have enclosed the letters "C-L" (for "Chevau-Leger")."

Prince of Essling20 Nov 2021 3:29 p.m. PST

From the Histofig site:

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Rawkins suggests:
"An similar standard of approximately 70 cm squared was issued to the Chevauleger Regiment in 1807 but exact details are unknown as, once again, the standard was lost sometime before 1809 during the period of service in Spain. The standard was red or amarante with an octagonal centre cartouche of white displaying the Grand Ducal arms and motto. The corner wreaths most likely displayed the J monogram, although one modern source suggests that this was a numerical 1 or perhaps CDB for Chevaulegers de Berg, however, this is less probable."

18th Century Guy Supporting Member of TMP22 Nov 2021 10:47 a.m. PST

Prince – thank you very much!

von Winterfeldt22 Nov 2021 11:40 a.m. PST

great information, thanks a lot.

18th Century Guy Supporting Member of TMP24 Nov 2021 5:14 a.m. PST

I've asked Adolfo Ramos to produce this flag. Hopefully he can/will do it.

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