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The Bibliophile19 Nov 2021 10:11 a.m. PST

I braved the pandemic and the five-hour roundtrip for a one-day excursion to Historicon this year. Two of my fellow Scrum Club mates went for the entire affair, but three of us drove up to Valley Forge for just Saturday.

Glad to have had the chance to attend another Historicon, despite the less-than-ideal circumstances. The organizers are to be commended for pulling this together and doing their best to keep everyone safe.

In the end, Historicon does what it does so well: reinforced for me my love for this hobby and those who put so much time and energy into sharing their passion and creating a good time for others. Even one abbreviated day at Historicon allowed me to chat with folks I hadn't seen in two years and to marvel at the creativity on display in the games I saw. Hopefully the world continues to move in the right direction, and future HMGS conventions can be free of pandemic drama.

There is a detailed write-up and many photos on my blog, Scrum in Miniature: link

Old Contemptible19 Nov 2021 2:36 p.m. PST

Sounds great. But a five hour drive just for one day?

BTCTerrainman Supporting Member of TMP20 Nov 2021 9:13 a.m. PST

A five hour round trip is not a big deal. Used to do more than that from Richmond to Lancaster and back same day. I guess it all depends where you live and what you do. I just drove 1,000 miles this week for work in two days and visited several clients (which was not fun following the week at Historicon).

Personal logo Cardinal Ximenez Supporting Member of TMP21 Nov 2021 7:24 a.m. PST

Two hours each way for a good one day event is a usual yes for me. Over two I'd have to think about it. Two and a half hours for something like a normal HCon would be a yes.

Personal logo Murphy Sponsoring Member of TMP21 Nov 2021 8:49 a.m. PST

Old Contemptible: Please read his blog. If you are questioning him driving for five hours for a one day thing, please note that he didn't drive.

The Bibliophile24 Nov 2021 3:03 p.m. PST

Given all of the great folks I got to see, it was time very well spent, even if the amount of time in the car wasn't ideal. And as I discuss in the blog, I got to see some great games and pick up some fun hobby loot.

Personal logo Cardinal Ximenez Supporting Member of TMP27 Nov 2021 2:06 a.m. PST

" If they hadn't, I wouldn't have gone at all. But even so, I simply could not imagine sitting around tables gaming for hours with folks who did not want to take this health crisis seriously enough to protect their own families or mine."

Or in a car for 5 hours? Did you also scold the gentleman in the passenger seat for not wearing his mask?

Rustycop Retired 201927 Nov 2021 10:43 p.m. PST

Touché

The Bibliophile28 Nov 2021 4:28 p.m. PST

Cardinal Ximenez and Rustycop Retired:

I didn't need to ask my friend to wear a mask in the car. We've had many discussions about the pandemic for the past 20 months and the precautions our families take every day. I was not riding on public transportation with a stranger. The fact that I have to explain that distinction is in itself problematic.

Rustycop Retired 201928 Nov 2021 5:38 p.m. PST

Touché..

TSD10129 Nov 2021 1:30 p.m. PST

Imagine believing that a piece of cloth from the dollar store most people wear as a mask would protect you or your family from the virus. Might as well just use the Babylonian Skull Cure or bloodletting. Full disclaimer: I am fully vaxxed.

Bellerophon199329 Nov 2021 4:39 p.m. PST

The point of a mask is to stop the transmission of the virus through water droplets when you speak, sneeze, etc, not as a "shield" to protect you from airborne transmission.

Wearing it protects others. I can't believe how many times we've explained it to people on this forum.

To quote Kambei from Seven Samurai "By protecting others, you save yourselves. If you only think of yourself, you'll only destroy yourself."

Ember52 Supporting Member of TMP29 Nov 2021 4:56 p.m. PST

Bellerephon1993 +1

TSD10129 Nov 2021 4:56 p.m. PST

Wearing a mask was pointless in 1918 when they tried it to stop spanish flu and its just as pointless today. We've moved to Delta, and now Omicron. In 2 months it will be Theta and 6 months after Zeta. Covid isn't going away. How long do you think you'll wear it? Another 6 months? A year? 5 years? The rest of your life?

Wolfhag30 Nov 2021 7:55 a.m. PST

Masks are optional in Tennessee. Kids have been back in school for over a year. The rates spike and then go down. Maybe it's because so damn many people are morbidly obese and unhealthy.

The point of a mask is to stop the transmission of the virus through water droplets when you speak, sneeze, etc, not as a "shield" to protect you from airborne transmission.

Wearing it protects others. I can't believe how many times we've explained it to people on this forum.

I can't really argue with that. However, there are so many people that get it with no observable symptoms maybe we should all be wearing a mask at all times for the foreseeable future as anyone can be a super-spreader. Even if you are double or triple vaxed you can still get it and die.

Everyone should be focusing on improving their immunity system. That will make you and everyone else safer. Even if masks are 99% effective eventually everyone will be exposed.

Maybe what we all really need a is a MOPP Level 3 or above.
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Wolfhag

War Scorpio30 Nov 2021 8:34 a.m. PST

University of Oxford Professor Jim Naismith asserts that despite England dropping its mask mandate in July and Scotland keeping its rules in force, official data shows this "has made no meaningful difference" to infection rates.

historygamer30 Nov 2021 12:46 p.m. PST

So, when is the board meeting that will decide the fate of a con to be held at an off season resort area, now barely 4 months away, in the middle of an ongoing pandemic?

Personal logo Cardinal Ximenez Supporting Member of TMP30 Nov 2021 1:24 p.m. PST

I didn't need to ask my friend to wear a mask in the car. We've had many discussions about the pandemic for the past 20 months and the precautions our families take every day. I was not riding on public transportation with a stranger. The fact that I have to explain that distinction is in itself problematic.

So you can only get COVID from people you don't know and haven't discussed the distinctions of for the past 20 months?

Wearing it protects others. I can't believe how many times we've explained it to people on this forum.

So while in the car neither of you were protecting each other even after you approached to within 6 feet of a maskless offender in a facility full of maskless individuals?

Bellerophon199330 Nov 2021 2:28 p.m. PST

Cardinal, why do you care so much. Give it a rest. It doesn't affect you, you didn't go, nobody cared for your "protest" of not going then, nobody cares now.

TSD10130 Nov 2021 3:02 p.m. PST

Give it a rest. It doesn't affect you, you didn't go, nobody cared for your "protest" of not going then, nobody cares now.

So you don't have a rebuttal to the astute observation by Cardinal Ximenez and you're going to deflect the conversation?

Rustycop Retired 201930 Nov 2021 5:48 p.m. PST

Astute……+1 TSD101.

Rustycop Retired 201930 Nov 2021 5:49 p.m. PST

Cardinal I care.

The Bibliophile30 Nov 2021 7:26 p.m. PST

+1 Bellerophon1993

If this is what passes for an "astute observation," then this isn't a conversation worth wasting breath on. But I'll make one last observation…

If you don't understand the difference between taking a calculated risk with somebody I know extremely well and who has taken all of the same precautions I have and a total stranger from a community filled with vocal science deniers, anti-vaxxers, and anti-maskers (as a simple stroll through these message boards reveals), then I see no point in arguing further except for the sake of it, which I have too many other more productive things to do.

Cardinal simply doesn't like my stance on the issue and thinks I've "scolded" somebody simply because I have a strongly expressed opinion on a subject. I can't give any more energy to somebody that thin skinned.

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