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Perun Gromovnik15 Nov 2021 9:37 a.m. PST

During World War II, Japan had planned to occupy the territories of the USSR in Siberia and the Far East as per the documents declassified on August 25 by the FSB of Russia within the framework of the No Statute of Limitations project. The Federal Security Service (FSB) is the successor to the Soviet Union's Komitet Gosudarstvennoy Bezopasnosti (KGB).


Does any one have link

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP15 Nov 2021 10:10 a.m. PST

Not particularly surprising.

nickinsomerset15 Nov 2021 12:02 p.m. PST

Sounds interesting, potential for some scenarios,

Tally Ho!

Schogun15 Nov 2021 2:02 p.m. PST

I thought occupation plans changed when the Japanese lost at Nomanhan/Khalkhin Gol.

Cuprum215 Nov 2021 4:58 p.m. PST

The plans were postponed after these events. But the Japanese considered the possibility of their resumption in the event of the Germans entering the Arkhangelsk-Astrakhan line during the offensive.
Japan finally abandoned plans to attack the USSR after Hitler's defeat near Moscow.

Perun Gromovnik15 Nov 2021 9:49 p.m. PST

Is there any link to those published plans

Barin116 Nov 2021 1:11 a.m. PST


This is what I've found

Perun Gromovnik16 Nov 2021 1:28 a.m. PST

Thanks mate 😁

emckinney16 Nov 2021 10:05 a.m. PST

Have to admit that I don't feel comfortable clicking on a link to the FSB's web site.

But, Barin's back! Yay! Hope you're doing well.

Barin116 Nov 2021 10:53 a.m. PST

well, I wasn't going anywhere. I just post if I can add smth useful to the discussion ;)

Legion 416 Nov 2021 11:02 a.m. PST

As far as I know … Japan in WWII wanted tp occupy a lot of places … So did Nazi Germany.

A lot of that going around back then, IIRC ? 🤔

Cuprum216 Nov 2021 6:44 p.m. PST

emckinney, are you surprised that it is in the archives of the FSB that data on the obtained intelligence information is stored? :-)

emckinney16 Nov 2021 9:28 p.m. PST

No, obviously I'm not surprised. :)

I'd still prefer to buy a disposable Chromebook to access it through a public Wi-Fi connection.

nickinsomerset17 Nov 2021 3:35 a.m. PST

Found this, looks like a goer,

Tally Ho!

nickinsomerset17 Nov 2021 7:07 a.m. PST

Found this, looks like a goer,


Tally Ho!

Legion 417 Nov 2021 10:24 a.m. PST

Khalkin-Gol, a very interesting conflict. Wargamed it many times in the past.

alexpainter24 Nov 2021 6:38 a.m. PST

Well, it's hardly surprising,the japanese had all the intentions to exploit western countries' weackness in WWII, look how they swiftly occupied french Indochina after 1940's debacle, also before Pearl Harbour their intentions about Dutch Indies were lampant.

4th Cuirassier25 Nov 2021 2:01 a.m. PST

What was in Siberia that was worth invading it for?

Barin125 Nov 2021 2:57 a.m. PST

pretty much everything Ė oil (though not a lot at known locations at that time), iron, copper, coal, gold, rare metals…Transsiberian RR, Vladivostok port- lots of stuff Japanese could be interested.

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