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Augustus12 Nov 2021 11:58 a.m. PST

Outside of writer fiat, the Human Torch is basically a dude whose psionic capability wafts a constant state of overexcited atoms racing to bond to oxygen around his body resulting in..well..fire.

That said, that does not equal bulletproof does it? I am speaking on a straight interpretation. The fire he is wielding can't melt the bullet (that would take millions of degrees because the bullet is zipping towards him in a matter of feet let's say), so that's out. And just becuase he can psionically manipulate fire around his body in a force, that does not equal bulletproof right? Or does it?

The same could be said of Mr. Fantastic – he is rubber..but not bulletproof..right?

Invisible Girl needs a forcefield and the Thing is obviously, well, stone so he gets a by I guess.

Eumelus Supporting Member of TMP12 Nov 2021 12:15 p.m. PST

Don't know FF lore that well, but it wouldn't surprise me to learn that Reed Richards' custom uniforms for his teammates, in addition to not burning up/ stretching as required/ turning invisible as required, are also puncture resistant.

Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP12 Nov 2021 12:35 p.m. PST

Marvel Superheroes RPG, 1985:

Human Torch (Johnny Storm): Body Armor— Incredible (40)
Also Generate Fire: Unearthly (100)
Control Fire: Unearthly (100)

Mr. Fantastic (Reed Richards): Body Armor— Remarkable (30)

Guns (and therefore bullets) do damage ranging from 6 pts (handgun) to 30 pts (machine gun— presumably the equivalent of a BAR or Thompson). The highest value for a single bullet impact is 10 pts. (20 for a shotgun blast.)

Per the rules, the above Body Armor would indeed be the equivalent of "bullet proof" for both heroes.

Is that canon? I dunno— "canon" would be the results in a comic book of someone shooting at the two heroes. Most of the time the FF are facing foes of an intergalactic or at least equivalently incredible nature, using technology way above that of normal firearms. But I'm pretty sure the comics depict the Human Torch and Mr. Fantastic as being essentially impervious to bullets.

Deucey Supporting Member of TMP12 Nov 2021 12:43 p.m. PST

Not saying this is the wrong place for this question. But there are probably better.

That said, my two cents is: Yes.

Wackmole912 Nov 2021 1:56 p.m. PST

Well I know the Original (ww2) Version was shot if his powers were on completely. I think Johnny storm was also shot in a FF issue.

Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP12 Nov 2021 1:59 p.m. PST

Found a partial answer by perusing my reprints of FF 1-10.

In FF #8, Mr. Fantastic is struck by multiple bullets from a machine gun— his body stretches to absorb the impact of each bullet, then flings them back at the shooters.

So the answer to the second question is "Mr. Fantastic is bulletproof."

(Though, interestingly, in an earlier comic in the series, he simply turns into a ball and bounces out of the way of the incoming bullets, rather than absorb them.)

In these early comics, the Human Torch is never struck by bullets or shot at— but his maneuverability is so great that would be attackers in jets can't get a bead on him.

bandit8612 Nov 2021 10:19 p.m. PST

What would be better than a superheroes board to ask this question on? Maybe the bullet melts before hitting his body.

Matamoros133712 Nov 2021 11:41 p.m. PST

I heard he's hot!!!

Deucey Supporting Member of TMP13 Nov 2021 9:13 a.m. PST

I stand corrected.

I just meant a comics website rather than a miniatures one.

Augustus13 Nov 2021 11:36 a.m. PST

THankyou for the asnwers. It helps.

Oh – was thinking of a superhero game with some miniatures I unearthed recently.

While I realize canon is entirely morphable in concept, I was working along the premise of superhero rating based around something relatable like being shot at/hit with a bullet.

Once a baseline was established, a "weight" could be given to a particular hero in relationship to others.

Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP13 Nov 2021 11:37 a.m. PST

TMP is one of the best sites on the web for finding answers to many off-beat questions.

Deucey Supporting Member of TMP13 Nov 2021 11:43 a.m. PST

Agreed.

Btw,What is the air speed of a swallow?

Stryderg14 Nov 2021 4:57 p.m. PST

African or European?

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