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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP26 Oct 2021 8:13 p.m. PST

… to Attack The U.S. In Six Months

"U.S. intelligence agencies believe the Islamic State in Afghanistan could develop the capability to attack the United States in as little as six months, a senior Pentagon official told senators on Tuesday.

The stark warning is the latest reminder of the danger that remains after U.S. troops left the country at the end of August and the Taliban retook control.

Under Secretary of Defense Colin Kahl said the U.S. had to remain vigilant against the threat from Al Qaeda and from the Islamic State's Afghanistan offshoot known as ISIS-K…"

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Stryderg27 Oct 2021 6:18 a.m. PST

No way! I heard the US withdrawal from Afghanistan was a wild success.

jamemurp27 Oct 2021 6:43 a.m. PST

Wow, they are really mad that Biden made them get out of there after 20 years at the trough, huh? This is the same trash arguments that lead to the invasion of Iraq and our misadventures in the Stan.

The people scoffing at military leadership misleading the previous administration need to be be paying attention to this. The MIC is in full swing and seems dead set on keeping the forever wars going.

Legion 427 Oct 2021 8:54 a.m. PST

Yes, I saw on the news that in 6-12 months ISIS-K and/or AQ could make an attack on the US or even Europe. It even may include radicalized locals who see the Taliban's success in making A'stan a fundamentalist islamic state/paradise. A good reason to kill infidels.

Plus with 1000s of illegal aliens flooding over the USA's Southern border. It would be an easy way to get some jihadis in the US to start killing infidels.

Some on the terrorists watch list have already been caught. But based on the CPB, LEO, etc., many sneak in and get away. Going deep into the USA and maybe at a terrorists incident near you …

Open borders is not good for the defense/security of the USA's population, etc. As most of us are infidels, and a jihadi can just rent/steal a truck/car. And start running over infidels. It has happened before … could easily happen again …

Wow, they are really mad that Biden made them get out of there after 20 years at the trough, huh?
I've talked about this before. This type of op, etc., was something I was trained to do.

The operation was Very poorly handled overall. Based on the elected and appointed civilian leadership. They did not listen to their military and intel personnel. Which was beyond "foolish", etc. As we see later costing 13 US military lives and abandoning many US civilians & Afghan allies behind.

Waiting too long to start the evac of civilians once it was clear the Taliban, etc., were on a general offensive. Capturing provinces almost on a daily basis as far back as May-June.

Ordering the US military to abandon BAF before ALL civilians were evac'd. Leaving BAF open for the Taliban to capture BAF and release 1000s of Taliban, AQ, etc. That were held there as EPWs. Not informing our NATO allies of abandoning BAF. THREE massive mistakes based on orders from the elected civilian leadership. Seems these decisions were made for political optics, etc., and not sound military TTP, etc.

Putting a ceiling on how many US troops could be deployed to A'stn after evacing the 2500 that were there at BAF, etc. Causing the evac airfield to be Kabul's next to an urban area. To secure the airport correctly part of Kabul would have to secured. The perimeter was manned by the Taliban … Not US and NATO troops.

Again the limit of US troops that could be deployed, ordered by the elected civilian leadership. Made securing Kabul's airport properly very difficult if not impossible.

The 82d ABN said they could retake BAF by a Bde parachute drop. So BAF, the more easily defended as it is fortified and has 2 runways, etc., was the better choice to evac civilians, etc. But the limit of US troops put on the military made this impossible. If BAF was not abandoned there would have been no reason to even consider a drop by elements of the 82d. To retake & secure it.

Some said BAF was too big to defend. 5800 US troops were deploy to Kabul + a number of NATO troops. Those would have been better used at BAF if it was never abandoned and held by the US 2500 or so troops, as well as ASF. That were already there. Note BAF was an active airfield with strike aircraft, etc. Until it was abandoned … everything was gone.

Also note NATO had around 7000 or so troops in country. As well as the ASF. Until BAF was abandoned the NATO troops also left. And the ASF were on their own. NATO did not want to leave A'stan as they knew it would make Europe once again more vulnerable to terrorist/jihadi attacks.

Do the math … 2500 US troops + 7000 NATO & 1000s of ASF. With Air support. BAF could have been held. But it was a very poor civilian decision to abandon BAF. NO military or intel professionals would have abandoned BAF. At least not until all civilian were out. It makes no military sense, logic, etc.

Some said BAF was too far away from the US Embassy, etc. In reality it was only a 20-25 min flight by helicopters from the Embassy, etc. to BAF. Helicopters were used to fly personnel out of the Embassy to Kabul airport. This could have been just as easily been to BAF with air support flying "shoot gun", etc. …

All these reasons and logic, etc., makes the decisions of the elected & appointed civilian leadership almost criminal.

The people scoffing at military leadership misleading the previous administration need to be be paying attention to this. The MIC is in full swing and seems dead set on keeping the forever wars going.
It is clear this evacing of A'stan will be studied by future military and intel personnel as how NOT to do things.

Forever war, MIC, … please … just more "trash talk" to cover the horrible Cluster Bleeped text made by the US elected & appointed leadership.

Sound military judgement would have been to hold BAF with 2500 US troops + NATO & ASF allies. So as to have immediate CAS available and intel assets on the ground. Not 8 + hours away. To keep the Taliban their AQ allies in check. Plus attriting ISIS-K at every opportunity.

Now I understand the "need" to evac A'stan after 20 years. And I understand that like, many military & intel personnel do, that leaving A'stan will make the US and Europe more likely to once again be attacked by terrorists/jihadi in some form.

BUT bottom line the evac from A'stan couldn't have been handled more poorly. With Vets, NGOs, etc., still evac'ing US citizens and allies out of the hands of the Taliban, AQ and ISIS troglodytes' hands. Before they all are killed …

IMO the open border and evac from A'stan are enough reasons to question the elected & appointed civilian leaderships' ability to make competent, effective decisions, etc., etc., etc., …

DrSkull28 Oct 2021 6:04 a.m. PST

I think that they may have the ability to attack China in 3 months and 2 days, and India in a month and a half, if they can scrape together enough smokes for the trip.

I think that they may be able to attack Belgium in 8 months and 6 hours, but they might lose their keys in the meantime.

Thresher0131 Oct 2021 9:09 a.m. PST

This is and was predictable, and predicted.

There ARE terrorist warnings for today/tonight in Northern Virginia. Makes me wonder how many of the MILLION plus people flooding over our open southern border were terrorists, or terrorist sympathizers, since they know that another 500,000 people "got away" from the CBP personnel.

A few people on the terror watchlist were caught, and perhaps a lot more than that, but the reporting on the issue is very sketchy to virtually non-existent.

I suppose time will tell.

Sadly, less than 20 years after 9/11, and now just slightly over that, it appears those in charge have learned nothing from history, and once again, they are putting average Americans at risk.

The security fence wall has been canceled, while the one for the guy in charge was approved and built. That alone should tell American citizens everything they need to know about the issue – "protection for me, but not for thee", since clearly, walls do work, or the guy in charge wouldn't have one.

Legion 431 Oct 2021 9:29 a.m. PST

There ARE terrorist warnings for today/tonight in Northern Virginia. Makes me wonder how many of the MILLION plus people flooding over our open southern border were terrorists, or terrorist sympathizers, since they know that another 500,000 people "got away" from the CBP personnel.
Took a lot sooner than the "experts" predicted … The open border makes it so much more simple/easy for terrorists/jihadis, criminals of all types, etc., to enter the US illegally. There is a caravan of thousands more on the way now as we speak/type … Yes, they all are criminals if they illegally enter the USA … period …

So again … IMO the open border and evac from A'stan are enough reasons to question the elected & appointed civilian leaderships' ability to make competent, effective decisions, etc., etc., etc., …

Seems it now is Halloween in DC everyday … 🎃

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