John the OFM | 18 Oct 2021 3:32 p.m. PST |
I'm specifically talking about options like: Not my cup of tea Not my genre Not my period Not my scale And ANY OTHER CHOICES that do nothing but confuse the results. If you don't have an opinion, you don't have an opinion. I see no need for obfuscation. Yes, all those silly alternate options were voted in. Now that we have had time to see what they do, let's vote them out. "Hey OFM! Why are you trying to interfere with democratic polls?" Well, we have elections for Congress every 2 years you, Senators must run again every 6, and Presidents every 4. |
etotheipi | 18 Oct 2021 3:40 p.m. PST |
So, furst "none of these/no opinion" should be split into "none of these" and "no opinion". None of these means you actually do have an opinion. NMCoT is fine to go. And NMG/NMP could be lumped into one, say "Not my milieu". Or those and "Not my scale", could just be "Not what I play". Fi\undamentally, I know the topic, but don't care about your piddly little world view of things is different than I have no interest in the topic. |
Korvessa | 18 Oct 2021 4:17 p.m. PST |
How about just this: Huh? |
rustymusket | 18 Oct 2021 4:53 p.m. PST |
John makes sense to me. Some of the differences in the choices seem to be, "how do I want to say 'no opinion'?" |
rmaker | 18 Oct 2021 6:28 p.m. PST |
etotheipi has a good point. Sometimes I really don't have an opinion but I do want to see the results. Other times, I have an opinion that doesn't match any of the choices given. Of course, Other covers that option. Also, the No Opinion answers shouldn't be counted in the totals. |
Oberlindes Sol LIC | 18 Oct 2021 6:41 p.m. PST |
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FusilierDan | 18 Oct 2021 8:06 p.m. PST |
I think you could take the "no opinion" out as well. If you want to see the poll results wait until it's over. |
Editor in Chief Bill | 18 Oct 2021 9:22 p.m. PST |
I don't believe we currently use "Not my period" |
John the OFM | 19 Oct 2021 1:00 a.m. PST |
How about "This is ridiculous "? |
johannes55 | 19 Oct 2021 2:09 a.m. PST |
Simply, get away with polls; they are mostly not representative (max 100 votes, mostly less), are often non-wargaming oriented and some totally silly and no use at all |
King Monkey | 19 Oct 2021 3:49 a.m. PST |
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Ed Mohrmann | 19 Oct 2021 3:55 a.m. PST |
Seriously, of what value (in the sense of contributing to miniatures gaming) are the polls ? I can see polls asking opinions on adding/deleting topic areas or polls affecting TMP (structure, organization etc) but many or most are not of that sort. |
20thmaine | 19 Oct 2021 5:52 a.m. PST |
No! I vote stick with ridiculous whimsey! |
Cerdic | 19 Oct 2021 6:55 a.m. PST |
You just need one option – 'none of the above'. That covers both 'no opinion' and 'my opinion doesn't fit with any of the options provided. |
JSchutt | 19 Oct 2021 6:59 a.m. PST |
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Red Jacket | 19 Oct 2021 8:20 a.m. PST |
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John the OFM | 19 Oct 2021 8:37 a.m. PST |
Seriously, of what value (in the sense of contributing to miniatures gaming) are the polls ? I just ignore the ones whose results I disagree with, and think people who voted the wrong way are stupid. |
20thmaine | 19 Oct 2021 8:50 a.m. PST |
I love the thought that some people might see real import and merit in TMP Poll results. If we all vote that Phantom Menace was the best Star Wars film that won't make it true (it won't make it untrue either). |
Andrew Walters | 19 Oct 2021 10:56 a.m. PST |
What we need is for someone to spend five minutes reading an "introduction to poll design" web page. I'm a bigger fan of individual liberty every day, so you could keep everything. But when you present *results* show the raw results, as we do now, but then drop NMCoT, "This is Ridiculous", etc., and show a set that just shows the positive choices, perhaps along with "none of these" if we make it clear that "none of these" means "other – this is my cup of tea, I care, I have an opinion but it is not among those listed." Currently variations of "I don't care but I want to click something" which I cannot really discern among are so numerous as to wash out any useful or interesting info that might be in there. BEST OF ALL would be writing the software to allow write-ins. That way people can specify when their choice is not offered. |
20thmaine | 19 Oct 2021 12:17 p.m. PST |
And if we had perfect polls….what would happen? Would all Tea become Tetley tea? Would we finally really know why painted miniatures are not collectible? Would it become a recognised historical fact that the Romans fought the Chinese in 36BC? And would it really be true that Sgt Rock would become my favourite WWII comic, rather than Warlord and Battle? I think not M'lud and I rest my case. |
Sgt Slag | 20 Oct 2021 7:11 a.m. PST |
I've noticed that a lot of "Other" votes do not get described in the comments section. I agree, many of the options are just muddying up the waters. We don't need granularity beyond, "No opinion," in my opinion. Cheers! |
JimSelzer | 27 Oct 2021 10:56 p.m. PST |
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etotheipi | 28 Oct 2021 4:02 p.m. PST |
So … how does information you are not interested in change the way you view the information you are interested in? |