"ACW Ship Questions" Topic
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Dan Cyr | 11 Oct 2021 3:15 p.m. PST |
Was there a common mast color for ships that made them? Were all naval guns painted black to protect them against salt water? Were naval gun carriages all made of steel and thus painted black also? Pivot guns, where the carriages steel and painted black also? Were deck guns on steel carriages (broadside gun types)? Were gun carriages on ships built for and fought on rivers, as well as fortress and battery guns on wood carriages? If so, any particular color? I'm assuming that both Union and Confederate guns and carriages would be the same? Thanks in advance. |
StoneMtnMinis | 11 Oct 2021 4:16 p.m. PST |
Fortress guns were under the control and crewed by Army troops and so would be the colors used by the Army. |
Dan Cyr | 11 Oct 2021 8:25 p.m. PST |
Yes, but were they all wood carriages, some, most, or same for iron/steel carriages? If an army cannon was painted olive green (or a shade like that), one could not expect them to paint metal the same color, right? |
Dn Jackson | 11 Oct 2021 9:01 p.m. PST |
These answers are from memory, so take them for what they're worth… 1) US Navy masts were white generally. CS ships could be any color since some were built over seas and some were converted merchants. 2) I can't recall seeing any guns painted any color other than black. 3) Some naval carriages were wood and others iron. Black seems standard for iron. I've seen wooden ones in red. 4) Pivot gun carriages were iron and I use black on mine. 5) Usually larger guns were on iron carriages while smaller guns on wooden. 6) Fort guns were the same as ship guns, smaller on wooden carriages, larger on iron. Fortress guns on wooden carriages that I've seen were green. This link leads to interior pictures of HMS Warrior. While a British ship she was from the same era and you can see the wooden carriages: link This link is to Old Fort Jackson in Savannah, GA and includes some shots of the 32 pounder barbette gun and carriage: link This link is to pictures of Fort Pulaski. The barbette guns have iron carriages while the casemate guns have wooden ones. link This link includes a virtual tour of USS Constellation. While she was a sailing ship she is in her ACW configuration. All the gns on her have wooden carriages. link Hope this helps |
Sam Quee | 12 Oct 2021 3:55 a.m. PST |
Google USS Morse. Guns appear to have been painted white. |
Dave Woodchuck | 12 Oct 2021 6:16 a.m. PST |
I'll agree with most of what's here – my only contribution would be to say that you can get away with leaving some of the brass guns as unpainted brass versus black. |
HMS Exeter | 12 Oct 2021 8:59 a.m. PST |
There are few realms of gaming where one would be safer from the scourge of rivet counting than ACW naval. The "regular" USN at the start of the war, and non-ironclads built for it as regular procurement would look pretty much alike. Acquired ships, ironclads and "rush job" vessels would be more likely to vary in appearance. CSA ships are also likely to exhibit considerable variability. You can drive yourself nuts trying to infer colors from B&W pictures, pour over accounts to try to find descriptions, or rely on books with color plates,…or just make your best guess and shrug if/when someone decides to try being a rivet counting tool/fool. |
Dan Cyr | 12 Oct 2021 9:01 p.m. PST |
Thanks to all. I'm painting up 1/600 scale, so its not critical, but I'd like to at least make them look good. I did examine pictures, and while the large guns and such like pivot guns show steel/iron carriages, it is difficult to tell if broadside gun carriages were. I'll go with the idea that broadside guns, unless of great size, would be on wood and I'll paint them that way. |
Dn Jackson | 13 Oct 2021 3:29 a.m. PST |
Years ago I read an account of a Federal naval attack on Fort McAllister outside of Savannah. It was from the ORs. There were multiple monitors in the attack and each was painted differently. One was green, one black with a white band around the turret, etc. I know on the western rivers you could tell which Federal ship you were fighting because they all had various, unique, colored bands painted around their smoke stacks. |
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